Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

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  • Roady
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1430

    #16
    Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

    A few more thoughts on BP baseballs, game used balls,and the mud.

    Anyone who collects game hit baseballs will tell you that not all of them have the same amount of mud on them. I guess it depends on the pitcher's preference (you see them rubbing the mud off while on the mound), how many times the ball has been put back into play, etc...

    I have balls that are as slick as a babies butt and brownish in color because of the mud on the them.
    I also have balls, authenticated by MLB mind you, that don't look to have any mud on them at all. Very white except for the dirt or grass or bat marks or the combination on them.

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    • Nnunnari
      Banned
      • Sep 2006
      • 875

      #17
      Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

      Originally posted by Roady
      NO, it is not necessarily a BP mark.
      Unless the ball flips inside out when hit by the bat or the mud somehow gets rubbed on the inside of the leather of the ball, both which are impossible.

      The leather you are seeing is not the outside leather of the ball. That leather is against the wood of the bat.
      The leather you are seeing on the bat is under the outside leather of the ball.
      What? It's leather from the surface of the ball. Typically from non-rubbed balls traveling at lower speeds. This fake Jeter is a perfect example.

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      • yanks12025
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 3118

        #18
        Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

        Originally posted by Nnunnari
        What? It's leather from the surface of the ball. Typically from non-rubbed balls traveling at lower speeds. This fake Jeter is a perfect example.

        http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=61206
        I also disagree. And the leather mark shown is from under the surface of the baseball. For example, if you take a piece of tape and stick it to the bat the sticky side will not be shown but rather the non sticky side. So just like a baseball that is rubbed with mud, the mud side won't be the side shown on the bat.


        Also I'm pretty sure parts of the leather will come off considering how hard they hit a baseball(have you not seen photos of bats bending, balls being squashed in slow mo).

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        • Nnunnari
          Banned
          • Sep 2006
          • 875

          #19
          Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

          Originally posted by yanks12025
          I also disagree. And the leather mark shown is from under the surface of the baseball. For example, if you take a piece of tape and stick it to the bat the sticky side will not be shown but rather the non sticky side. So just like a baseball that is rubbed with mud, the mud side won't be the side shown on the bat.


          Also I'm pretty sure parts of the leather will come off considering how hard they hit a baseball(have you not seen photos of bats bending, balls being squashed in slow mo).
          Wrong. Notice the tiny holes in the leather transfer, those holes match up with the same color leather still on the surface of the ball. I would get these marks while hitting soft toss with new balls. Do you think the guy who faked the Jeter bat was having someone fire 90 mph fastballs at him and risk shattering the bat? No, someone was lobbing him, non- game prepped balls.

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          • yanks12025
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 3118

            #20
            Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

            First off, the OP bat and the jeter look nothing alike. The orginal posters spot is. Rey small while the jeter is huge and shows the seams.

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            • Roady
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 1430

              #21
              Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

              Originally posted by Nnunnari
              Wrong. Notice the tiny holes in the leather transfer, those holes match up with the same color leather still on the surface of the ball. I would get these marks while hitting soft toss with new balls. Do you think the guy who faked the Jeter bat was having someone fire 90 mph fastballs at him and risk shattering the bat? No, someone was lobbing him, non- game prepped balls.
              You really are 100% wrong on this.
              Unless a baseball can turn it's leather inside out when hit by a bat, which is not possible.
              Anyone who has played baseball with a wooden bat has gotten these pieces of leather on their bat before.

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              • Roady
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 1430

                #22
                Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

                >Not my bat but knowing those transfers are on Stantons bats a lot I found this online.
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                • Roady
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1430

                  #23
                  Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

                  Chase Utley bat with leather transfer
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                  • Roady
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 1430

                    #24
                    Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

                    Check out this Matt Harvey bat from Golden Auctions.


                    "Looking at this bat you wouldn’t think it necessarily belonged to a pitcher; a barrage of blue ink ball marks, white leather scuffs and stitching impressions surround the barrel of this Louisville Slugger M9 model C243 Matt Harvey professional model 34-inch, 33.2-ounce bat."
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                    • Roady
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1430

                      #25
                      Re: Mystery white substance on a bat.... what is it?

                      the PSA/DNA letter of authenticity with the Harvey bat.
                      Notice the mention of white leather scuffs.
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