Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

[slab0meat]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

If eBay is so pro-buyer currently, then the "risk" or "onus" really is NOT on the buyer, if returning an item is so easy.

Post better/more pictures and a more thorough description as a seller, it seems. The SELLER is the one dealing with more "risk" if he/she doesn't want the item back, potentially.

[Hoosier39]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

That's a little different. If it doesn't fit them, that's no ones problem. If they bought the jersey, game used or not, and there was a stain on the back, and the seller didn't mention this in the description or have a photo, then yes, I do believe they could get a refund.

Let's go back to a bat-- if I bought a bat and in the auction there was pictures of all angles, the description was accurate, etc, and then I receive the bat and it has a different players number on the barrel end of the bat.

Who's fault is it? The buyer for not asking what was on the barrel end? Or the seller for not taking a photo of the barrel end or putting it in the description? To me, when people do that, or don't take a pic of the knob because perhaps it's blacked out, are up to no good and purposely do that.

Would I keep it because the seller wasn't responsible enough to describe it or take a photo of it, absolutely not. I'm not saying you purposely did anything at all, this is all more of an example. But I feel that if you put "stain on back" in your description, or taken one more pic, this thread would probably nonexistent.

Hoosier, by the logic you used in that thread, do you feel that regardless of the dollar amount purchased someone should be able to return a game used jersey because it doesn't fit them the way they want?

In my opinion, a game used item that is sold as a game used item, should bear no responsibility for usage other than being a memento/conversation piece/ display item.

Now, in some instances I have sold some game issued jerseys of low end players as an "authentic" jerseys, and will state in the description of the listing it is issued and better quality than a store bought "authentic" jersey, plus it would be rare instead of the same superstar player replica and authentic jerseys all over the place. I will do that in hopes that the larger market who would buy that item, would indeed be buying it to wear it and would value the sizing and cleanliness moreso.

Unfortunately ebay, will always side with the buyer no matter what the cause for the return.

[godwulf]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

Agree-- If I buy a bat that's cracked, pictured as cracked, described as cracked, and I get the bat with a huge chunk missing from the back of the barrel, you all expect me to keep it because I didn't ask how the back barrel looked?

This actually happened to me, pretty much exactly that way, just a couple of years ago. I felt like an idiot, but I kept the bat and even gave the Seller good feedback, for a few reasons: it was obvious from his other (and past) listings that he did not regularly sell GU items, I didn't ask about the reverse side of the bat, which his photos did not depict, and the selling price was very low. Lesson learned.

[BU54CB]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

This can go both ways.

Nothing irks me more than someone selling a game used bat and not listing what is written or stamped on the ends. I have to send a message and wait, which if there is a Buy It Now, someone else may buy it before I can get a response.

Its especially troubling when it is a dealer or seasoned collector.

I like Jake and have dealt with him many times. I would recommend that he and others add additional pictures and better descriptions of items to avoid these situations.

Completely agree, but if you don't get a response and you buy the item anyway, then the risk is on you. You could have decided not to buy it, but instead went ahead without the question being answered. Of course, that's my opinion.

[BU54CB]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

While true, one shouldn't have to assume, either. Post another pic or two, it's really not that difficult.

I understand that its not that difficult to post photos, I sell on ebay and post photos all the time. As we all know, not every seller is super descriptive, therefore the onus is on the buyer to ask questions. You can't assume anything when you're the buyer, if the seller doesn't respond to your question, don't buy the item, its pretty simple. If you choose to buy the item I don't like it, then that's your issue IMO.

[jake33]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

Hoosier, by the logic you used in that thread, do you feel that regardless of the dollar amount purchased someone should be able to return a game used jersey because it doesn't fit them the way they want?

In my opinion, a game used item that is sold as a game used item, should bear no responsibility for usage other than being a memento/conversation piece/ display item.

Now, in some instances I have sold some game issued jerseys of low end players as an "authentic" jerseys, and will state in the description of the listing it is issued and better quality than a store bought "authentic" jersey, plus it would be rare instead of the same superstar player replica and authentic jerseys all over the place. I will do that in hopes that the larger market who would buy that item, would indeed be buying it to wear it and would value the sizing and cleanliness moreso.

Unfortunately ebay, will always side with the buyer no matter what the cause for the return.

[Hoosier39]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

While true, one shouldn't have to assume, either. Post another pic or two, it's really not that difficult.

Agree-- If I buy a bat that's cracked, pictured as cracked, described as cracked, and I get the bat with a huge chunk missing from the back of the barrel, you all expect me to keep it because I didn't ask how the back barrel looked?

Always keep in mind that just because something is game used doesn't mean ppl don't buy them to wear to games or use the bats in the batting cages. In those instances, ppl want to know the condition. The question could've been asked before purchased but it's the sellers responsibility too to describe the items condition in full. When ppl lack that, it seems like they are either lazy or purposive hiding something. You get a lot of that with bats and what's written on the knobs. "Oh I won't take a pic of the knob so hopefully the buyer doesn't pay attention and won't figure out it was blacked out."

Not a huge ticket item here, but you shouldve at least mentioned it in the desciption if you weren't going to take a photo. People do in fact wear these.

[slab0meat]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

One should not assume, especially on eBay, which goes back to my point, ask questions if you have them.

While true, one shouldn't have to assume, either. Post another pic or two, it's really not that difficult.

[seanbaseball]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

just got in a Molina 2010 ST uniform. Its is really worn out. Should I return it. LOL

[Hoosier39]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

One should not assume, especially on eBay, which goes back to my point, ask questions if you have them.

Oh I don't disagree with you, but if a pic won't be taken, at least mention something about it in the description.

[BU54CB]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

I think some people feel that if, in this instance, if there isn't a pic of the back of the pants, they assume that the back looks just like the front, unless the description says otherwise.

One should not assume, especially on eBay, which goes back to my point, ask questions if you have them.

[camarokids]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

What happened to asking a seller a question about an item?

The onus is on the buyer to ask a question about said item if the seller description or photos are lacking, period.

When I buy an item on ebay and am not satisfied with a description, I ask a question. If the seller's photos aren't clear, I ask a question.

Why is it the sellers fault that the buyer didn't ask questions? Granted, some sellers aren't pros at listing their items or leave things out, but not their fault if the buyer didn't ask questions.

Seems pretty simple to me.

This can go both ways.

Nothing irks me more than someone selling a game used bat and not listing what is written or stamped on the ends. I have to send a message and wait, which if there is a Buy It Now, someone else may buy it before I can get a response.

Its especially troubling when it is a dealer or seasoned collector.

I like Jake and have dealt with him many times. I would recommend that he and others add additional pictures and better descriptions of items to avoid these situations.

[beachpetrol]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

What happened to asking a seller a question about an item?

The onus is on the buyer to ask a question about said item if the seller description or photos are lacking, period.

When I buy an item on ebay and am not satisfied with a description, I ask a question. If the seller's photos aren't clear, I ask a question.

Why is it the sellers fault that the buyer didn't ask questions? Granted, some sellers aren't pros at listing their items or leave things out, but not their fault if the buyer didn't ask questions.

Seems pretty simple to me.

Bingo!

[beachpetrol]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

brewersfanatic2

Thanks

[Hoosier39]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

I think some people feel that if, in this instance, if there isn't a pic of the back of the pants, they assume that the back looks just like the front, unless the description says otherwise.

What happened to asking a seller a question about an item?

The onus is on the buyer to ask a question about said item if the seller description or photos are lacking, period.

When I buy an item on ebay and am not satisfied with a description, I ask a question. If the seller's photos aren't clear, I ask a question.

Why is it the sellers fault that the buyer didn't ask questions? Granted, some sellers aren't pros at listing their items or leave things out, but not their fault if the buyer didn't ask questions.

Seems pretty simple to me.