A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

[ShaimOnYou]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

Don't drink too much or you will wind up like the Mick.

[UTeric3232]

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I think the auto is sweet...

[Skizzick]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

The autograph is the art.
The player is the artist.
The jersey is just the canvas.

Well, that sums up all my opinions perfectly, though I don't get my GU jerseys framed.

[slats7]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

A message to no one in particular . . . Your personal collecting preferences and the parameters you set should be important to you, but it is not your place to impose those on other collectors.

except that no one's doing that

[Roady]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

A message to no one in particular . . . Your personal collecting preferences and the parameters you set should be important to you, but it is not your place to impose those on other collectors. You might think that something is dumb, ugly, awful, ruined, stupid, unbelievable, etc., but the next collector might think that is is simply the best item they have ever seen. What you like and prefer might not be what the next collector likes and prefers. That's what makes this hobby wonderful - there are many different collectors with various tastes and desires.

If you like your jerseys autographed - great! If you find autographed jerseys to be an eyesore - great! If you like unwashed jerseys - great! If you can't stand dirty, stinky garments - great! If you love holograms - great! If you despise holograms pasted on the back number - great! If you like wearing your game-used jerseys - great! If you think that wearing a game-used jersey is an abomination - great! Whatever your preferences, it's all good if it works for you. All that should really matter is whether or not you like an item to add it to your collection.

Collect what you want, how you want, and ignore everyone else as all that matters is to collect what you like and what appeals to you. That's what makes it fun to collect. If we all had the same preferences and parameters, things would be pretty stale and very boring.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net

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[G1X]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

A message to no one in particular . . . Your personal collecting preferences and the parameters you set should be important to you, but it is not your place to impose those on other collectors. You might think that something is dumb, ugly, awful, ruined, stupid, unbelievable, etc., but the next collector might think that is is simply the best item they have ever seen. What you like and prefer might not be what the next collector likes and prefers. That's what makes this hobby wonderful - there are many different collectors with various tastes and desires.

If you like your jerseys autographed - great! If you find autographed jerseys to be an eyesore - great! If you like unwashed jerseys - great! If you can't stand dirty, stinky garments - great! If you love holograms - great! If you despise holograms pasted on the back number - great! If you like wearing your game-used jerseys - great! If you think that wearing a game-used jersey is an abomination - great! Whatever your preferences, it's all good if it works for you. All that should really matter is whether or not you like an item to add it to your collection.

Collect what you want, how you want, and ignore everyone else as all that matters is to collect what you like and what appeals to you. That's what makes it fun to collect. If we all had the same preferences and parameters, things would be pretty stale and very boring.

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net

[jmeekins33]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

I once was someone who really liked autographs on game jerseys. As time goes on I've found that I prefer to own game worn jerseys that have not been signed. That's my preference but it wouldn't dissuade me from purchasing a jersey that I really want.

[Roady]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

and yet collectors frame them .. like a piece of art

The autograph is the art.
The player is the artist.
The jersey is just the canvas.

[slats7]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

Art provokes emotion. I would think looking at a Mantle jersey in the Hall would provoke an emotion. Ergo, it is art. <sips a glass of vintage Franzia>

and yet collectors frame them .. like a piece of art

[beachpetrol]

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Don't drink too much or you will wind up like the Mick.

Right. And if you stare at the Mantle jersey long enough, it's like one of those magic eye 3-D art photos, that make the jersey look like a ship or dolphin.

[Roady]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

Art provokes emotion. I would think looking at a Mantle jersey in the Hall would provoke an emotion. Ergo, it is art. <sips a glass of vintage Franzia>

Don't drink too much or you will wind up like the Mick.

[beachpetrol]

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So is the hall of fame actually an art museum where art( i.e. non signed jerseys) are displayed? Do people stand around drinking wine while trying to understand the "meaning" of ex. mickey mantles jersey. Its all starting to make sense now.

Art provokes emotion. I would think looking at a Mantle jersey in the Hall would provoke an emotion. Ergo, it is art. <sips a glass of vintage Franzia>

[seanbaseball]

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At the National, I saw a person tape square 2x2 paper sheets on a jersey and asked the players to sign on the paper. That individual had 12 signatures on her 3000 hit jersey, all on paper taped to the jersey. I guess she can have her pure jersey anytime by removing all signed paper stickers. Of course, she paid a lot of money to get the autographs. I found that really wierd.

HUH. Strange. Oh well. As collectors we all have different angles as to what we think makes sense and what we enjoy. I like signed stuff but others that don't no problem. I think its too much to say a signed item is ruined! Ruined would mean to me the majority of the population would think it was now junk, clearly from this conversation link we can tell that is not the case.

[Roady]

Re: A gorgeous jersey ruined for me at least

At the National, I saw a person tape square 2x2 paper sheets on a jersey and asked the players to sign on the paper. That individual had 12 signatures on her 3000 hit jersey, all on paper taped to the jersey. I guess she can have her pure jersey anytime by removing all signed paper stickers. Of course, she paid a lot of money to get the autographs. I found that really wierd.

That is strange.
But that is the great thing about America. You can be who you want and collect what you want and drive what you want.
Enjoy it while it last.

[Roady]

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Mona Lisa sucked as a player. No wonder she doesn't smile.