How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

[slab0meat]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

One of the strangest threads I've ever read on a jersey forum, let alone a general sports forum.

[solarlottry]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

This jersey is confusing. First the 75th patch is sewn over the horizontal chest seam whereas 99% of 49er shirts from the 1994 season had the patch sewn below the seam. It is remotely possible that in the preseason the patch was sewn over the seam and then moved for the regular season. This jersey could have been kept by Young and thus was not in the equipment managers possession when he made the changes.

The other issue is the size tagging with the date code on it. The date code corresponds to 1991. I have a number of 49er gamers that were worn in the 1994 season that have date codes from 1991-1993 so it is possible that this jersey represents an older Young shirt that was prepared for the 1994 season by adding the 75th patch.

The other issue I have with the shirt is that the date code is on the same tag as the size. I have over 80 1994 49er game worn jerseys in my collection and not a single one has both the size and date code on the same flag tag. In fact none of the 49er gamers I have from 1990-1995 have the date code and size on the same tag. I did some research regarding this using both 49er and Raiders gamers and came to my own conclusion that shirts with the date code and size on the same tag were retail shirts. This is my own opinion and something that has never been substantiated by either team or by Wilson.

An image from the preseason would be quite helpful in determining what this shirt actually is. The fact that the letter is not signed is somewhat perplexing but not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

If anyone has preseason Images please share them with us!

Paul

[MichaelofSF]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

Sorry, here's the pic:

The 1994 49ers wore the regular non throwback road whites once during the year to my knowledge, that was the game against the Chiefs. The other possibilities would be 10/9 at Lions or 11/28 at Saints. I thought after the Eagles beat them they didn't wear the regular jerseys anymore. A 49er expert can chime in here. The other possibility would be wearing two jerseys for the Chiefs game or the preseason

9/5 Raiders (home red)
9/11 @Chiefs (white away)
9/18 @Rams (red throwbacks)
9/25 Saints (red throwbacks)
10/2 Eagles (home red)
10/9 @Lions (WHITE THROWBACKS)
10/16 @Falcons (white throwbacks)
10/23 Bucs (red throwbacks)
10/30 bye
11/6 @Redskins (red throwbacks)
11/13 Cowboys (red throwbacks)
11/20 Rams (red throwbacks)
11/28 @Saints (WHITE THROWBACKS)
12/4 Falcons (red throwbacks)
12/11 @Chargers (white throwbacks)
12/17 Broncos (red throwbacks)
12/26 @Vikings (white throwbacks)

For informational purposed:
1994 49ers preaseason schedule:
8/5 @Cardinals (red home)
8/12 Broncos (red home)
8/18 @Chargers (red home)
8/26 Seahawks (red home)

10/9 @Lions (white throwbacks - have not seen a picture myself but referencing the internet. perhaps a video exists)
11/28 @Saints (white throwbacks)

I also came across this cool site while researching:

http://uniformdatabases.blogspot.com/

[net0@thehalf]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

Number dropping
Name dropping
City dropping
$$$ dropping
Boat dropping
Hot young wife dropping = dog dropping

Skype me if you want to respond

[seanbaseball]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

I think the boat is sinking

[net0@thehalf]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

Stosh is that you?

[commando]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

Maybe the OP is telling the 100% truth about how he acquired the jersey. With that being said, this is starting to remind me of the infamous Joe Namath "Super Bowl III" helmet from a couple of years ago.

Back in those archaic days before the internet (and for our purposes, the internet wasn't really around in 1994), a team could donate equipment all day and claim it was anything they wanted it to be. After all, who would be any the wiser? Forward to 2014, where hundreds of knowledgeable collectors can now lay eyes on and examine these items. A wealth of photos, news archives and personal experiences are now available to everyone and are collected in common areas (like this forum).

The jersey may be team issued, or perhaps worn in a pre-season game other than the one in Phoenix. I did notice the flag below the Wilson tag looks very crisp and may have never been washed. Regardless, anyone with an interest in this shirt can do a bit of legwork and probably figure this one out.

[seanbaseball]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

Okay, I'm now thoroughly confused. If the jersey was a gift from Steve Young to whomever "Curt" is, why would it be accompanied by a Forever Young Foundation letter? I mean, if I was buddies with a pro-football superstar, and he gave me a signed gamer, the last thing on my mind would be an LOA.

Imagine the conversation:

Steve Young: "Hey Curt, happy birthday!"
Curt ???: "Thanks bud. What'd you get me?"
Steve: "Open it up and see."
Curt unwraps the package: "Holy crap! Is this what I think it is???"
Steve: "Yeah. It's my jersey from the Aug 8 game against KC."
Curt: "Cool man. Thanks."
Steve: "No problem."
Curt: "Hate to ask, but how do I prove it's real?"
Steve: "What do you mean? I wore it, and I gave it to you. Isn't that proof enough?"
Curt: "Well, if I give it to my gf's son, how will he know it's real?"
Steve: "I suppose I could have Shamberlin draw up a letter."
Curt: "Cool. Thanks man."

A few days pass.

Steve: "Hey Curt, here's the letter."
Curt: "Thanks. Wait. It isn't signed."
Steve: "Why does the letter matter so much to you? I gave you the jersey!"

Am I missing something in seeing things unfold that way?

Lol. Perfect!!!

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

Okay, I'm now thoroughly confused. If the jersey was a gift from Steve Young to whomever "Curt" is, why would it be accompanied by a Forever Young Foundation letter? I mean, if I was buddies with a pro-football superstar, and he gave me a signed gamer, the last thing on my mind would be an LOA.

Imagine the conversation:

Steve Young: "Hey Curt, happy birthday!"
Curt ???: "Thanks bud. What'd you get me?"
Steve: "Open it up and see."
Curt unwraps the package: "Holy crap! Is this what I think it is???"
Steve: "Yeah. It's my jersey from the Aug 8 game against KC."
Curt: "Cool man. Thanks."
Steve: "No problem."
Curt: "Hate to ask, but how do I prove it's real?"
Steve: "What do you mean? I wore it, and I gave it to you. Isn't that proof enough?"
Curt: "Well, if I give it to my gf's son, how will he know it's real?"
Steve: "I suppose I could have Shamberlin draw up a letter."
Curt: "Cool. Thanks man."

A few days pass.

Steve: "Hey Curt, here's the letter."
Curt: "Thanks. Wait. It isn't signed."
Steve: "Why does the letter matter so much to you? I gave you the jersey!"

Am I missing something in seeing things unfold that way?

[seanbaseball]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

I once bought a jersey in the early days that ended up not looking right, does that make it more rare? Didn't matter though cuz its not about the evil cash I lost.

[Wally_Fischer]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

WILL someone please start a game of Russian roulette for this deerhunter????

But he more Fredo and less Denero

[urzaworld]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

WILL someone please start a game of Russian roulette for this deerhunter????

[Jags Fan Dan]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

God, young beautiful wives are the best, but you were right to take her for a walk. I have found they will go in the house if you don't.

[deerhunter]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

what Jersey were we talking about?

A gift that Steve Young gave his long time friend Curt on a special night, in a special way, there is a letter that says he wore it that is unlike any other that I could find evidence of, I suspect there is something special about it and am hoping someone here can spot it by the pics i attached yesterday.

My young beautiful wife want me to take her for a walk, i may not be back to moderate (am i suppose to babysit the thread i start?) so see you tomorrow.

[seanbaseball]

Re: How do i put a value on a rare jersey?

what Jersey were we talking about?