gary carter

[R. C. Walker]

Re: gary carter

I don't think I have to explain why I think it's a forgery. Most autograph experts can tell very quickly if an autograph is real or not. I sell buy and sell thousands of autographs a year and I like to help with opinions when ever I can. Besides, every item that seller on eBay sold was a forgery, the Carter glove included.

Thanks for helping Juicyfruit66 understand why the autograph is a forgery . . .

Since you consider yourself and autograph expert plus buy and sell "thousands of autographs" a year, we'll take your word for it.

[Juicyfruit66]

Re: gary carter

Glove has been returned and I bought something I think is better from another seller. A 1973 rookie era gary carter signature contract for autographed ball company. Has Gary's writing on it as well. The red marks I did myself in computer.

[TBM]

Re: gary carter

It may no longer be relevant since you returned the glove, but I tried to post this last week and it did not go through.

I thought the signature on your glove was fishy looking from the first time I saw it. Now I am not an autograph expert and have bought far fewer than 100 in my life time and have not sold any (to this date), so take my observations with a grain of salt.

To me Gary Carter signatures most always look like he takes pride in them. They look neat and legible as he took time to make it look good. That being said, the auto on the glove looked too good. For writing on such an uneven surface, with hills and valleys with the natural contour of the glove, it looks too even and smooth. The auto looks like the glove was contorted and pulled flat so that it would be smooth and even. It looks too nice in other words like it was forced to be nice looking, but they made a couple of mistakes.

The kicker to me did not reveal itself until you posted the two pics for comparison. Both of those again look like he took pride in every letter of his name and took time to make it look nice. On the glove Mr. Carter looks as if he did the same, taking his time and making it look nice, But he left the "e" out of Carter. I know the next pic that carbonrosa posted has him leaving out the "e" also, but that one was hurried and sloppy to begin with but was personally obtained so no question about it.

The next thing I noticed is that in all three comparison pics Gary Carter has a hooked "C" in Carter. That is he starts out at a high point and comes down then back up and over the original starting point of the "C" thus making a fishing hook looking tip on the "C". The signature on your glove does not have this. The signature on your glove has a regular "C", it starts low then goes up and over without a hook. To me even the pre-printed signature on the glove shows his hooked "C" as the tip of the "C" is wider than the part that goes up from that point then gets wider again as it goes over the hooked "C" part. He wrote his hooked "C" starting high then going low and as he went up and over he went back over a portion of the hook and in doing so the tip of the "C" is wider than if it was a normal "C"

Again I am no expert it is just what stood out to me. Take it for what it is an observation from a non-expert in autographs and especially a non-expert in Gary Carter signatures. I believe that it was the right thing to do to return it.

[Juicyfruit66]

Re: gary carter

Thanks tbm, yeah I didn't listen to my gut when I saw such a fine pointed auto on leather. I didn't do my homework on the seller and it almost bit me. I got everything back including both shipping fees.