2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

[deacs86]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

If anyone is interested i just picked up both of Drew Brees' game used practice jerseys..i have his red quarterback jersey..and his white practice jersey...the red jersey shows tons of use, and has his name screened on the back..its a reebok size 46...and has 03-46 tag in the collar...the white jersey shosw good use and is a reebok size 48..has 04-48 in the collar and has his name screened on the bcak as well...i also have back up running back jamaal branch's game used helmet..great use and even has his mouthpiece..any interested feel free to email me at wakeforest86@cox.net for pics....thanks

[Eric]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

Scott

Welcome back to the forum. Perhaps you can answer the questions about the Syracuse jerseys you bought from Marcus as non game used which are now appearing in Mastro as game used.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=6864&page=4

I also sent you some emails about the Chargers jerseys which disappeared over the summer. I posted about it here

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=7045&highlight=scott+robinson

Eric

[deacs86]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

Eric,

To answer your question about the Syracuse jerseys i traded those a long time ago as possible game issued or salesmans samples...i did not submit them to Mastro..I don't know who did....the chargers jerseys that i was going to send to you were returned as they were not game used or issued..i assume you liked the jefferson jersey as I never heard any negative things from you regarding it...i can tell you that it is very frustrating sometimes on the forum because people who consider themselves experts alawys question other peoples items, and do incredible research to find problems with jerseys that are not theirs..on the flip side when they try to sell or trade one of thier items its always good as gold....my friend who had the saints jerseys took alot of harsh criticism that was not deserved for listing them on ebay..like i said im sure im not the only one who feels there are certian people within the game used hobby that thrive on bashing others items, and doing almost CSI research to prove that what they have is no good...im sure these same people will respond to this post the same way they do thers posts....bottom line is that this is supposed to be fun and a source of enjoyment for most of us, and there are those that force collectors like me to take a break from all the nonsense..rest assured that none of these comments are directed towards you as you have been fair and honest with me in the past, and do a great job policing the forum

[josports]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

deacs86

Wait a second, let me ask you how much fun it is to spend 30k on a game used bat trusting specific individuals then come to find out with the correct "CSI" or less investigational work that the bat is in question and even borderline not a good bat. Now I am sure that you would not one to be one of those individuals. All Eric did was support photo evidence that every photo that we have seen shows a Reggie Bush jersey with no jock tag. No one on the forum ever said the jersey was not good. Look at my previous post and you will see I support Chuck and just tried to make it clear before anyone came on the site and bashed the Bush due to the photo evidence Eric poste to any and all members to help make an educated decision whether they believe the jersey is worth the amount of money asked considering it to be a game used jersey. I hope Chuck is not upset at the GUU site it is informative and useful. Let me put it to you this way, lets say they the GUU site/forum supported the Bush jersey with all of its "CSI" investigation. NOW WHAT IS THAT JERSEY WORTH?? 5k, 10k, 15k who knows but it would be alot easier to get 15k with all the support. Eric was not trying to make the jersey bad, he just wanted to support the jersey and it dated game sig.

Jarrod

[deacs86]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

I was not at all referring to any of Erics posts....it was good to have the questions brought up...i was referring to others that emailed me when i posted a response since i knew chuck, and kept hounding me for info that I later posted and it was removed...and rightfully so....i received many emails pushing me to get answers that i did not have....im not being critical of those who do their research...but there are those who go way overboard to blackball certain items that may well be legit...and this in my opinion is wrong...legitimate research and questions like the ones Eric posted regarding the Bush jersey are not what i was referring to..i will be happy to forward you the emails i received from people on the forum

[beantown]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

thanks for all the info. on the bush jersey. We are not removing it from the post, but it is no longer for sale as we have took the proper actions with our supplier. All the others will be listed with prices wed. thanks and any emails can be directed to us at marci@i-55.com

I'm confused...... Why is the Bush jersey no longer for sale and what action did you take with your supplier?

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

I was not at all referring to any of Erics posts....it was good to have the questions brought up...i was referring to others that emailed me when i posted a response since i knew chuck, and kept hounding me for info that I later posted and it was removed...and rightfully so....i received many emails pushing me to get answers that i did not have....im not being critical of those who do their research...but there are those who go way overboard to blackball certain items that may well be legit...and this in my opinion is wrong...legitimate research and questions like the ones Eric posted regarding the Bush jersey are not what i was referring to..i will be happy to forward you the emails i received from people on the forum

Hello Scott,

I have to admit, I'm a little confused by what you just posted in this thread. In this situation, there was a Bush jersey that appeared to be incongruent with the Getty images of the jersey it was supposed to be used in according to the signature. In fact, judging from Chuck's statement "it is no longer for sale as we have took the proper actions with our supplier" it appears the collecting community owns a great deal of thanks to Eric for identifying this issue before someone spent thousands of dollars on the jersey.

With that said, you also suggest people are trying to "blackball" items as evidenced by the emails you received from forum members. I have to admit that really confuses me. If people were trying to blackball items why would they do it via emails and not publicly? It appears to me that the collectors on this forum may have wanted information to help them determine the items' legitimacy. I think any potential buyer should have that right. Additionally, I think given: a) you publicly posted that you had seen the jerseys and could testify to their merits, and b) Chuck was unable to respond to forum members after you posted his phone number without his consent, the members on the forum probably felt justified sending you their emails to follow-up.

Further, as an FYI, here is the forum rules regarding questioning items on the forum:

In instances where a forum member is identifying an item in the hobby they believe to have issues, it is expected that the poster clearly state their findings in the form of an opinion and provide adequate rationale for why they believe there is an issue. When possible, it is expected that the poster questioning an item will attempt to contact the seller of the item and allow at least 24 hours for the seller to reply before posting. This will prevent postings that may be generated based on misunderstandings of an item.

To be perfectly honest, I don't see the basis for your comments. I also looked at your remarks regarding the Syracuse jerseys in Mastros. In that situation, the forum rules were followed and questions were asked that collectors still deserve answers to (and still haven't been answered). Therefore, I can't believe your comments are referring to that thread either. Thus, if you could please clarify the basis for your comments maybe it would help everyone going forward.

Sincerely,
Christopher Cavalier

[deacs86]

Re: 2006 new orleans Saints Game worn Jerseys

This is the last post i will make regarding what i said...maybe i was misinterpretted...i have NO knowledge of who submitted the Syracuse jerseys to Mastro's...my name only came up from Eric because i was sold the jerseys over a year ago....to be honest i don't even remember who I trade the jerseys to, and if that person in turn gave the Mastro Auctions. since the submission of the jerseys to Mastros does not even involve me, i am in no position to comment on who submitted them and why Mastros has not responded...i don't even know anyone at Mastro's.....as far as my post regarding the Saints jerseys, I am taking alot of criticism for only trying to help forum members....I speak to Chuck on a weekly basis, and was only sharing the great experience I had seeing his incredible collection of this yeras jerseys....those who contacted me directly were NOT trying to get answers about the legitamacy of the Bush jersey,m as that did not become an issue to just a few days back..they were pushing me to give personal info on how to contact Chuck, which i should not have shared with the forum...it was not my intention to cause a problem, and Im sure Chuck would vouch for the fact that I was only trying to help those individuals interested in the jerseys....i will keep my opinions to myself from now on, as it was NEVER my intention for furum readers to respond to my post in a negative way....as a matter of fact it was supposed to have the opposite effect and allow me to share what had occured..i appreciate the diligence that people use in researching items, and reading posts, but that does not change the way I feel about how certain items are handled..prime example are the Syracuse jerseys in Mastro's that i knew nothing about them being submitted...i will continue to enjoy the hobby with people like Chuck who make it not only fun to collect, but more importantly share the same enthusaism and excitement that i have with every new find or pick up