Heads Up NFL Auctions "Game Uused" Footballs

[RaidernatioN]

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Hey all,

Wanted to update you that NFL Auctions has relisted this ball in question once again as game used. It's the exact same one I bought and sent back. Buyers still beware!!!

There aren't any game balls from that game with a 'b' before the number.

Dom

[RaidernatioN]

Re: Heads Up NFL Auctions "Game Uused" Footballs

*Update*

Just got the FEDEX return label from NFL Auction with an apology letter. Ball is going back in the AM. It's unfortunate it had to come to this but I respect them for understanding. Even though it says 'All sales are final' on the website, it looks like they will work with you if something appears off.

Best of luck to everyone.

Dom

[jeriley23]

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I have seen some of them with markings near the Roger G signature. But thits not bright silver numbers. The ones I saw were either stamped/sharpie ref numbers. But remember, back in Super Bowl 48 and prior the NFL probably wasn't as strict to the balls until the Pats got caught.

just wondering if you had a choice for the "other" team's stamped Super Bowl football would you buy it even though it wasn't your teams?

[yanks12025]

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they are currently selling past super bowl balls as game used. I can't see any markings on the ball at all. What would be the likelihood that this is not game used?

I have seen some of them with markings near the Roger G signature. But thits not bright silver numbers. The ones I saw were either stamped/sharpie ref numbers. But remember, back in Super Bowl 48 and prior the NFL probably wasn't as strict to the balls until the Pats got caught.

[RaidernatioN]

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I would stay away.

[jeriley23]

Re: Heads Up NFL Auctions "Game Uused" Footballs

they are currently selling past super bowl balls as game used. I can't see any markings on the ball at all. What would be the likelihood that this is not game used?

[yanks12025]

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I was able to email a current NFL ref and he did confirm B stands for backup.

[RaidernatioN]

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The head guy at Nfl auctions told me they will look into it after the pro bowl. But I guess the teams sign papers stating they're game used. So probably more the teams fault then Nfl auctions.

Yea Pete Q. was included on all correspondence regarding this. What's crazy is there's a 'b9' ball for sale right now on their site and currently at $615 with over 5 days left. They should really take it off.

Thanks again guys.

[Abzk01]

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Another update on this... they are sending me a prepaid label to return the football. I told them that I wasn't satisfied that this was used during the game and that I wasn't paying $450 for a practice or pregame ball.

Buyers beware... if you cant trust NFL Auction who can you really trust. I agree they need to tighten up labeling items right as they come off the field and not assuming game use.

Thanks for all the discussion guys. I hope this thread possibly opened some eyes.

I'm glad you got this resolved. I did find 3 days worth of practice pictures where they were using StS balls which likely explains the use on the one you purchased.

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Oakland-Raiders-Begin-Prep-For-Denver-Wednesday-Practice-/3007b757-879f-4a33-b0e7-ea80218337dd#start

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Oakland-Raiders-Continue-Prep-For-Broncos-Thursday-Practice/033c19d9-e82e-4d02-99a8-416cdf909d0b

http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/photo-gallery/Oakland-Raiders-Finalize-Plans-For-Denver-Friday-Practice/455b6706-f862-4fa4-beae-b4141c190853

[yanks12025]

Re: Heads Up NFL Auctions "Game Uused" Footballs

Another update on this... they are sending me a prepaid label to return the football. I told them that I wasn't satisfied that this was used during the game and that I wasn't paying $450 for a practice or pregame ball.

Buyers beware... if you cant trust NFL Auction who can you really trust. I agree they need to tighten up labeling items right as they come off the field and not assuming game use.

Thanks for all the discussion guys. I hope this thread possibly opened some eyes.

The head guy at Nfl auctions told me they will look into it after the pro bowl. But I guess the teams sign papers stating they're game used. So probably more the teams fault then Nfl auctions.

[RaidernatioN]

Re: Heads Up NFL Auctions "Game Uused" Footballs

Another update on this... they are sending me a prepaid label to return the football. I told them that I wasn't satisfied that this was used during the game and that I wasn't paying $450 for a practice or pregame ball.

Buyers beware... if you cant trust NFL Auction who can you really trust. I agree they need to tighten up labeling items right as they come off the field and not assuming game use.

Thanks for all the discussion guys. I hope this thread possibly opened some eyes.

[Abzk01]

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It shows heavy use and yes the laces are dirty as well.

The only question that really needs to be asked and answered is... Is it legal to use a football in an NFL game without rule b. "Upon approval, each game ball and back-up ball will be stamped with the Referee’s distinctive mark at the corners of each non-insignia panel. "

IMO the answer is No.

If rule e. Is followed "All game ball information will be recorded on the Referee’s Report, which must be submitted to the League office by noon on the day following the game", you should be able to request a copy or confirmation on what balls were used and approved.

[yanks12025]

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This is really disappointing that the NFL and also PSA/DNA doesn't have a better procedure for game used footballs. Some of these balls are being sold as game used when intact they're practice used. Hopefully one day they will be like the MLB and have someone right there after the game mark the footballs correctly.

[RaidernatioN]

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It shows heavy use and yes the laces are dirty as well.

[Abzk01]

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Also this was the only Salute To Service game the Raiders played in while other teams are listed more than once.

NFL game balls are all broken in prior to being used in games. The team never has 12 brand new balls, they are all used in practice and see a significant amount of use as game balls are hand picked practice balls. Even though the StS game is only 1 game, there still should be some decent use from being broken in. The laces should be brown and so on. I haven't seen your ball but I have some 1 off game balls that all show good use and they would have only been usable in 1 game.