Rarest...most photomatched Ken Griffey Jr. Rookie bat!?!

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  • vonbrandingo
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    This is like a car wreck, painful but gotta look. I've found that it's a mistake to look for the validation you sought in your title. I'd just show it and the responses would be much different. You have a killer Junior photomatched rookie bat. Might be the rarest or the best or whatever or might not. No way to know. I'd be super happy with it, wrap this up and move on.

    Rod

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  • DTM5
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    Ironic the timing of this article from MLB.com check it out at the following link:

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  • DTM5
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    Originally posted by STLHAMMER32
    I noted that it looks good in favor of Griffey Jr using the bat because of what you mentioned. I do have a couple of questions out of curiosity.

    1.) Is there no ordering records of the Cooper 271 bats for Griffey Sr.

    2.) If you have the cooper ordering records, can you share them?

    3.) Is there another photo or bat with a similar tape job of this bat for Griffey Jr ? This is the first I've seen that is this "extreme".

    Cool bat, great match. Would probably fetch a nice premium for the right collector.

    An example of "extreme" tape job is donruss baseballs best 1989 Ken Griffey Jr.
    Rookie card which also is a cooper bat!

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  • DTM5
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    I miss spoke when I said order records, I simply meant my PSA/DNA COA states year 1989 (rookie year). The website gubats.com (Nick's website a guu member) has a picture of someone's, I'm assuming a member of guu as well Griffey Jr. Bat collection that shows the progression of his tape application over the years. You will notice that all bats are black LS, however that's not what to look at. You will notice it starts from earliest bats (top)... down to more recent. Notice he did OCCASIONALLY use the single spiral tape application rookie year as mentioned before. There is a bat displaying the higher tape application as well. My COA notes the higher..." early tape application 14.25 inches."

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  • STLHAMMER32
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    Originally posted by DTM5
    At the expense of being redundant Griffey Sr. Used cooper model (S216) Griffey Jr. Used cooper (C271) that to me alone is telling not to mention the tape and 24 on top of barrel. If Jr. used Sr. bat it would not have had these characteristics let alone it would have been a (S216). This is not Sr.'s bat. Also, Griffey Jr. On rare occasions used a single spiral tape job his rookie year maybe mimicking his old man however I have never seen Sr. Use a 14inch criss-cross tape application on his bats.

    I noted that it looks good in favor of Griffey Jr using the bat because of what you mentioned. I do have a couple of questions out of curiosity.

    1.) Is there no ordering records of the Cooper 271 bats for Griffey Sr.

    2.) If you have the cooper ordering records, can you share them?

    3.) Is there another photo or bat with a similar tape job of this bat for Griffey Jr ? This is the first I've seen that is this "extreme".

    Cool bat, great match. Would probably fetch a nice premium for the right collector.

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  • DTM5
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    At the expense of being redundant Griffey Sr. Used cooper model (S216) Griffey Jr. Used cooper (C271) that to me alone is telling not to mention the tape and 24 on top of barrel. If Jr. used Sr. bat it would not have had these characteristics let alone it would have been a (S216). This is not Sr.'s bat. Also, Griffey Jr. On rare occasions used a single spiral tape job his rookie year maybe mimicking his old man however I have never seen Sr. Use a 14inch criss-cross tape application on his bats.

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  • STLHAMMER32
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    Re: Rarest...most photomatched Ken Griffey Jr. Rookie bat!?!

    Originally posted by yankees506
    I highly doubt griffey would have grabbed a bat that he was not using for a photoshoot. Even if it is his dads bat placing it in his hands during his rookie season/ era is incredible and amazing it has survived the years. I would not care to match it to "game use" its matched period at least imo. Great bat man!

    I can't even begin to count the numerous examples of players holding another player's bats ESPECIALLY for photo shoots from this era. I think we could all find dozens upon dozens to post as examples.

    Griffey Sr. used blonde coopers and as already posted there is a photo of him actually holding the blonde cooper while griffey holds his typical black bat from the same series of cards.

    Here's a griffey card with JR. Holding a singular spiral taped bat that is likely a SR. bat as this was his signature tape job.

    With that being said...Because it's a c271 and has a unique criss-cross pattern with his #24 placed on the bat, I'd say there's a good chance it was in fact used by Griffey Jr. even if it was originally issued to Griff Sr.
    Attached Files

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  • yankees506
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    Originally posted by seanbaseball
    The post really took on a tone of hyping his bat........starting to seem like hyping for the purpose of future auction listing? Maybe im wrong but thats the sense i get. Its a great bat but doesnt compare to Aaron Judge items in terms of value imo.
    If he wants to sell this bat more power to him. I had a chance at this bat and passed for many reasons. One being i already have a nice griffey rookie. But lets not assume anything. If he wanted validation for his bat why dont we give it to him as collectors. He has what he has. Nothing will change that. Its either a verified griffey photoshoot bat or a gamer. Both have value. But i think he posted it so we could appreciate it. I know i do

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  • seanbaseball
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    Originally posted by DTM5
    No Mayweather vs. McGregor hype here for an upcoming auction. Just wanted
    to share my find of the century and a bat that has not been seen in almost 30 years.
    LOL I hear u and its VERY cool

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  • DTM5
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    No Mayweather vs. McGregor hype here for an upcoming auction. Just wanted
    to share my find of the century and a bat that has not been seen in almost 30 years.

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  • seanbaseball
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    Originally posted by yankees506
    Can't we just let the man be happy with his photomatch? I haven't seen him claim the bat is worth any dollar amount. Are we really going to nitpick game use on the bat? Its an amazing find regardless. This thread is taking a sour feel when we should be congratulating a fellow collector on an really rare find.
    The post really took on a tone of hyping his bat........starting to seem like hyping for the purpose of future auction listing? Maybe im wrong but thats the sense i get. Its a great bat but doesnt compare to Aaron Judge items in terms of value imo.

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  • DTM5
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    Amen to that Yankees506 and those of you that have offer kind words as well.

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  • yankees506
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    Can't we just let the man be happy with his photomatch? I haven't seen him claim the bat is worth any dollar amount. Are we really going to nitpick game use on the bat? Its an amazing find regardless. This thread is taking a sour feel when we should be congratulating a fellow collector on an really rare find.

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  • swainer
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    Originally posted by seanbaseball
    is there even a style/ model match to him using this type of bat in a game? without the Jr. if not it has to be worth less than a model that u can put in his hands in a game in his rookie season. as of now this is a photo shoot bat............are there any ball marks?
    He's already stated what the PSA letter states "Ken,

    To answer your question the PSA/DNA COA (GU9) states "Cooper model C271 Ken Griffey Jr. professional model bat shows evidence of excellent use with handle crack. Several ball marks and ball stitch impressions are visible on the right barrel. Ball marks include blue ink transfers. Cleat marks are visible on right and left barrel......"

    I also failed to mention that there is a "24" written on the top barrel in fading marker that is documented in the COA as well, that would also point in the direction of Jr. using the bat."

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  • seanbaseball
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    Originally posted by truvalue123
    Why would it have LESS value than another Griffey rookie bat? They already have a range...Especially with use, preparation, a photo match to Griffey Jr. himself, and, a rock solid Taube letter? Are there ANY Griffey ROOKIE bats with a photo match to game play?
    Look at the number of rookie bats on pricerealized.com...very few..none with photo match.
    is there even a style/ model match to him using this type of bat in a game? without the Jr. if not it has to be worth less than a model that u can put in his hands in a game in his rookie season. as of now this is a photo shoot bat............are there any ball marks?

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