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  • kingjammy24
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3119

    #16
    Re: San Francisco Giants logos

    the other day i ran into a M&N "1993 joe carter" jersey ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230236348824 )and it was one of the worst M&N renditions i've ever seen. literally, every aspect of it was way off. the nob, the front team script, the team logo, the numbers, the WS patch; all of it grossly incorrect. even with the MLB licensing, they still couldn't even get the team logo right. sloppy, sloppy stuff. below is an image comparing the two. M&N on the left, real jays gamers on the right:



    rudy.

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    • TNTtoys
      Moderator
      • Aug 2006
      • 2618

      #17
      Re: San Francisco Giants logos

      Originally posted by kingjammy24
      the other day i ran into a M&N "1993 joe carter" jersey ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230236348824 )and it was one of the worst M&N renditions i've ever seen. literally, every aspect of it was way off. the nob, the front team script, the team logo, the numbers, the WS patch; all of it grossly incorrect. even with the MLB licensing, they still couldn't even get the team logo right. sloppy, sloppy stuff. below is an image comparing the two. M&N on the left, real jays gamers on the right:



      rudy.
      Rudy,

      Not for the sole intent to play devil's advocate with you... how are you certain that the Mitchell and Ness jersey advertised on ebay is legitimate? M&N knock-offs are probably more evident on the market than their real counterparts. There are only a small number of M&N retailers on ebay, and they usually deal with overstock or wholesale irregulars, not the more popular sizes. The ebay listing you have provided is at a price that is far below wholesale (not sure what seller would want to pay over $100 to M&N and then take the risk of losing money and fees on it over ebay),
      does not show any of the tagging (another red flag), and may have another tagging inconsistency to current style M&N jerseys (position of manufacturer tags). I've been to the M&N website to verify whether or not the Carter is real, but to my surprise found that they don't sell a Carter (they may have before, but it would be sort of surprising to see they started the line only in the last couple of years only to discontinue it as quickly). My 2 cents here.

      Nick
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      • TNTtoys
        Moderator
        • Aug 2006
        • 2618

        #18
        Re: San Francisco Giants logos

        Rudy,

        I found a photo of a REAL 1993 Joe Carter M&N jersey on Distant Replays (they are one of few trusted resellers of M&Ns). The photos of this jersey show VAST differences than the one you pointed to on ebay.

        The font on back letters is wrong

        The font on front letters is wrong

        The sizes/thickness of the numbers are wrong

        The white between the back numbers is wrong

        The font on front is arched incorrectly

        The color of the Blue Jay head is gray, not aqua

        The color of the letters is wrong

        The tagging is in the wrong place

        And I would suppose there are probably even more problems with the ebay jersey... Rest assured, this is not an issue of M&N completely bombing this jersey (as per the 80s Giants ones at the start of the thread); this is the difference between the real one and the knock-off.

        Nick
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        • kingjammy24
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 3119

          #19
          Re: San Francisco Giants logos

          hey nick

          yeah at one point i thought that the ebay carter was so horrendous that there's a good likelihood that it wasn't a real M&N. i'm not an expert by any means on M&N jerseys so i didn't really know.

          if it's any reassurance, the nob on the M&N carter you found is still way off

          as usual, all is revealed in the "A".

          rudy.

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          • otismalibu
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 1650

            #20
            Re: San Francisco Giants logos

            I've got a number of M&N jerseys and none of them are exact. And some are much closer than others. Wrong cut, wrong lettering, wrong numbers...
            Authenticators aren't the only ones who refuse to take the time to crack a few books, play some video or glance at Getty.
            Greg
            DrJStuff.com

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            • TNTtoys
              Moderator
              • Aug 2006
              • 2618

              #21
              Re: San Francisco Giants logos

              Regarding previous posts I have made regarding M&N Mets jerseys, I am happy to say that they put two of the bad ones back into production and corrected them --

              The 1985 St. Patrick's Day Gooden that had no name on back now has a name on back correctly.

              The 1983 Blue Road Alternate now has correct colors on the neckline and sleeves (orange and gray). It formerly contained the neckline and sleeves from the home batting practice jersey instead (orange and white).

              Glad to see that they are continuing to improve their products.

              Now, if we can get a corrected GIANTS logo, we're in business ... lol
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