2006 Hall of Fame Votes

[trsent]

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True, Jim Rice and The Hawk should be in there (and were closer to receiving the required amount of votes for enshrinement)

I always thought Ken Harrelson deserves more respect. When he teamed up with Tom "Wimpy" Paciorek, they were the best announcing team I had ever heard. From his days as a major league player, to professional golfer, to announcer, to general manager and back to being a television announcer, "The Hawk" deserves to be in Baseball's Hall of Fame.

Right?

[JETEFAN]

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Hunger Strike For Donnie Baseball!!!!!!!!

Puckett's Numbers-mattingly's Numbers

Donnie Should Be In!!!


George

[earlywynnfan]

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Regarding Garvey, you forgot to mention he had as much range defensively as a Cigar Store Indian!

Ken

[suave1477]

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OK OK OK as mentioned in my previous post everyone knows whos my favorite and by reading everyone else posts they feel pretty strongly about players that should be on the ballot that are not with that being said / HALL OF FAME - CAN ANYONE SAY RIGGED?

[island_style]

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Ken,

That was pretty funny about Garvey's range at first base! Not too much dirt stains on the chest of his jerseys. Still, somehow, he managed to win several Gold Glove awards while saving many an errant throw from Bill Russell.

The voters get to vote for as many players they seem worthy. But, this year's results were disappointing (Garvey or no Garvey). Not taking anything away from Sutter, but there surely are others just as, if not more, deserving.

[DonFan23]

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As someone who has a bit of insight into how the vote works, here are a couple of points:

1) Although one of the sportswriters may very well be a closet Walt Weiss fanatic, more than likely it's someone who is just testing the system to make sure his votes are counted or who has some other yet-to-be-determined agenda.

2) A voter is free to select anywhere from 10 to zero votes on his ballot, so a vote for a Weiss wouldn't necessarily hurt someone else's chances. Let's face it, when was the last year that you can recall where you would have seriously considered nominating 10 of the candidates if you had a vote?

3) Each returned ballot is counted equally. Therefore, if someone elects to return a zero-vote ballot, it negatively impacts the chances of everyone on the ballot to a greater extent than if that ballot was simply not returned. And zero-vote and unreturned ballots have probably factored into every year's vote.

Just a little food for thought.

R.J. Hinners

Always looking for Don Mattingly and other Yankees items.

[trsent]

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3) Each returned ballot is counted equally. Therefore, if someone elects to return a zero-vote ballot, it negatively impacts the chances of everyone on the ballot to a greater extent than if that ballot was simply not returned. And zero-vote and unreturned ballots have probably factored into every year's vote.

RJ, do you have any idea how many ballots are not turned in each year? I assume if a writer doesn't mail in a blank ballot, then it doesn't count against players.

I just wonder if there is a history of this.

[wpeters143]

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Please let's remember that it is the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Very Good. There are so many players throughout history would would make it into the latter. But the Hall of Fame should be a very exclusive club and players like Garvey, Dale Murphy, Jim Rice, George Foster and scores of others in that class just do not belong. They are very good, but not Hall-worthy.

As far as empty ballots, do I remember correctly that Nellie Fox missed election by 1 or 2 votes because some writers sent in blank ballots?

[trsent]

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As far as empty ballots, do I remember correctly that Nellie Fox missed election by 1 or 2 votes because some writers sent in blank ballots?

At least justice was served and Nelson Fox was let into The Hall in 1997.

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers_and_honorees/hofer_bios/Fox_Nellie.htm

[DonFan23]

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Joel,

I do not believe that the number of unreturned ballots (or the total number of ballots/eligible voters) is typically disclosed to the public. I don't believe it's a huge number, but it definitely could play a significant role when someone is only a few votes shy of induction.

R.J. Hinners

Always looking for Don Mattingly and other Yankees items