I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

[Eric]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

Also, I would like to point out that there are collectors who buy inexpensive game worn shirts to wear around. If that's what they want to do, that is their choice. I would hope if they then re-sold the item, they would mention that the used came from the consumer and not the player.

Back to AMI, it is such a bizarre thing to see four figure items clearly being shown having use added to them by people other than the players.

Is that an overreaction Dave?
Eric

[CollectGU]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

Eric,

I see no upside at all. Only downside as this thread clearly proves. I'm simply stating that to sat they are compromised is very strong wording. That means every time any game used equipment is tried on by someone other than the player it is compromised? Is it a stupid business idea by AMI? yes. Does it make the piece any less authentic? No (in my opinion). I've carefully tried on jerseys that I've bought of players, as have some of my friends. Did I compromise the item? In my opinion, No..

Regards,
Dave

[CollectGU]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

Eric,

I'm not commenting on this thread again. It's already turning into another pissing match....

Regards,
Dave

[sportscentury]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

I'm not commenting on this thread again. It's already turning into another pissing match....

Hmmm, I wonder how that could've happened...

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

This isn't about a collector trying on a jersey. This is about a pathetic attempt of a sports memorabilia auction catalog trying to front like a psuedo-hip-poser fashion magazine. There are grown-folks who read the catalog and don't want to be force-fed this nonsense. Want to target an audience and widen your demographic? Then, AMI should quit the memorabilia racket and publish Maxim-type fish-wraps for 20-year-olds. Put the jersey on a mannequin and move on.

Skanks for the memories!

[ironmanfan]

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Actually my first thought when "CollectGU" bought that obvious fake Ripken glove on eBay was how disappointed Kieta was going to be not being able to do a picture shoot with it.....

[Nathan]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

Eric,

I see no upside at all. Only downside as this thread clearly proves. I'm simply stating that to sat they are compromised is very strong wording. That means every time any game used equipment is tried on by someone other than the player it is compromised? Is it a stupid business idea by AMI? yes. Does it make the piece any less authentic? No (in my opinion). I've carefully tried on jerseys that I've bought of players, as have some of my friends. Did I compromise the item? In my opinion, No..

Regards,
Dave

It has nothing to do with the authenticity and everything to do with the condition being compromised. It's one thing for, say, a wool jersey to be stored for 50+ years and be partially eaten by moths. At least then it can be said that an item was unintentionally improperly stored.

But in this case, you're talking about basically a fashion shoot with valuable items from sports history being modeled. Why stop at putting a jersey on? Why not pop a football helmet on and play some two-hand tag? Maybe put a Nettles jersey on for a company softball game?

There's unintentional damage and there's intentional compromising. This definitely falls into the latter.

[CollectGU]

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Actually my first thought when "CollectGU" bought that obvious fake Ripken glove on eBay was how disappointed Kieta was going to be not being able to do a picture shoot with it.....

I'm curious, tell me how you were able to determine that the glove is obviously a fake? What exactly is wrong with it in your opinion? I will add that no Rawlings employee has stated that the glove had the wrong lining as was reported here earlier..

Regards,
Dave

[ballofbases@hotmail.com]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

I just received the magazine/catalog the other day in the mail and could not agree more with what everyone thinks about the marketing being ridiculous for them. Has anyone contacted American Memorabilia to let them know that as a present or future customer that this is not something that wants to be seen??? Just wondering what they have to say about the matter.

And Lampson is a writer as well as an expert authenticator??? HA! who knew!?!?

Michael

[hblakewolf]

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I can’t remember ever seeing such amateurish and ill-conceived antics in another sports memorabilia auction catalog. I’ve received catalogs from Lelands, Grey Flannel, Christies, Sotheby’s and Mastro to name just a few. I can’t remember the last time I saw models shooting hoops or even wearing vintage uniforms in any other auction houses’ catalog. It’s inconceivable to even think that you may see some guy or model wearing a Babe Ruth jersey and shooting hoops in the next Christies catalog.

Likewise, I’ve never been subjected to viewing pages from any of the above-mentioned auction houses of the owners self-promoting themselves, let alone in extremely “creepy” motifs. The first AMI catalog had a photo of Vic and Kieta sitting on a couch. My co-worker happened to see the photo and asked if the guy (Vic) was the little boy in the Munsters, now grown up!

Likewise, I’d be interested to know why Kieta needs to be featured in these catalogs in belly shirts and including past cover shots of her from 1980’s playboy covers? I understand she was a model in the 1980’s, but this is 2007.

Can we expect to possibly see Lou Lampson and the 100% Authentic team modeling in the next catalog?

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[metsbats]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

There's only one word for the whole approach AMI takes in my opinion

Unprofessional

Perhaps they are compensating for something.

-David

[sarahsdad]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

And your Buyers Premium and Consignment commissions pay for this "magazine".
Sarahsdad

[sportscentury]

Re: I will NEVER buy from American Memorabilia after seeing this...

By the way, hats off to whomever did the editing of this catalog. A terrific job!

A few responses to other posts:

The first AMI catalog had a photo of Vic and Kieta sitting on a couch. My co-worker happened to see the photo and asked if the guy (Vic) was the little boy in the Munsters, now grown up!

Howard, this is too funny. Too much for a Sunday morning.

Perhaps they are compensating for something.

David, one has to wonder. I think you may have hit the nail on the head.

And your Buyers Premium and Consignment commissions pay for this "magazine".
Sarahsdad

Solid point. How much could buyers and sellers save if their money was not being spent on this nonsense?

[sportscentury]

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I'm curious, tell me how you were able to determine that the glove is obviously a fake? What exactly is wrong with it in your opinion? I will add that no Rawlings employee has stated that the glove had the wrong lining as was reported here earlier..

Regards,
Dave

Dave,

Below is a quote by Rob Steinmetz (from the original thread about your Ripken glove: http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ead.php?t=8394). I'm trying to balance Rob's statements in that thread and your statement here that "no Rawlings employee has stated that the glove had the wrong lining as was reported here earlier."

Any help?

Thanks,

Reid

It is my understanding that the glove purchased on eBay by Dave O'Brien was recently rejected by Dennis Esken. Apparently the glove has the wrong lining...information that was confirmed with the Rawlings employee who actually made gloves for Cal Ripken, Jr. I'm not sure if Dave was able to get a refund on the glove from the eBay seller, but hopefully the glove isn't sold to another unsuspecting collector as a Ripken gamer.

Rob

[geoff]

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When I see someone wear a game used jersey it just makes me sick.When I was at the Orioles Fanfest this year I saw people buying the Gamers then wearing them the rest of the day.I just don't understand it don'these people know better.

My friend wanted to buy a Orioles game used jersey from me to wear to games this year and I told him I would not sell him one because u just don't do that and he did not understand why.