Lampson to be at the National?

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  • kingjammy24
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3119

    #16
    Re: Lampson to be at the National?

    call me a pessimist (or a realist) but i don't see how it isn't all a foregone conclusion. lou's been confronted in the past and every single time he's employed the same old m.o.:

    someone: lou, explain this insane authentication
    lou: i have photos to back it up
    someone: show me
    lou: ok, i'll send them as soon as i get back home.

    *sound of crickets chirping*

    we've seen this occur repeatedly so why would it be any different this time around? lou's standard m.o. works very well for him as it allows him to get past the initial confrontation with a solid answer ("i have photo proof") and buys him the time and excuse to extricate himself from the situation. after all, he certainly doesn't travel with his 85,000 photo library so he'll have to "get those to you once he gets back". once he's extricated himself, it's mission accomplished. and no, the photos never arrive.

    forgive me if this feels like we're anxious to meet bush and see what he says about why he went to iraq. we all know the canned response. surely there isn't the genuine expectation that, after all these years of deliberately ignoring emails and ducking every issue, lou's suddenly going to reverse course and sit down and discuss exactly how and why he's made so many insane errors? if he were open to discussing these things, he would've done so by now.

    i don't believe that what's gone on on this forum has been speculation. lou's errors have been so egregious that there's practically no room for subjectivity. what is it that people have speculated on?

    here, lou completely invents facts:


    here, he just doesn't even bother trying:
    http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=8085

    here, he actually says that yount went onto the field, as a coach, in 1998 wearing a style the brewers last wore in 1993:
    http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=8097

    the list goes on and on. when the negligence is so gross, prolific, and constant, there's no need to speculate. is it simply a coincidence that lampson is the only major industry figure who cannot be contacted? when a person hides, it's by design. the pieces in this puzzle fit together too perfectly to think that there's any other explanation other than the obvious one.

    personally, i feel the real opportunity to knowing that little louis charles lampson will be at the national is in being able to serve him a summons.

    however, if any of you manage to catch the little hobbit, then let me know if you get any response other than "i'll have to check my records/photos and get back to you". if you want to cut him off at the pass, print out a 2005 yankees roster and ask him why he said cano was the only one to wear #14 when in fact 2 others wore it that year. ask him if it had anything to do with the fact that a cano rookie jersey would fetch way more than a russ johnson. at least he can't claim that he'd need to check his photo library for that one.
    at a minimum, be sure to get a picture so warren can fill up his free time.

    rudy.

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    • Eric
      Senior Member
      • Jan 1970
      • 2848

      #17
      Re: Lampson to be at the National?

      Originally posted by kingjammy24
      call me a pessimist (or a realist) but i don't see how it isn't all a foregone conclusion. lou's been confronted in the past and every single time he's employed the same old m.o.:

      someone: lou, explain this insane authentication
      lou: i have photos to back it up
      someone: show me
      lou: ok, i'll send them as soon as i get back home.
      rudy.
      Rudy

      If I'm stuck with a (multi) thousand dollar Ripken St. Patrick's Day jersey with Lou's letter, I'd bring it with me to ask how he came to his conclusion.

      If he said he'd show me pics as soon as he got home, I'd make sure I didn't leave until I had a telephone number. I would also let him know that if he didn't take my calls, I would have no problem taking things to the next level.

      It's very easy to talk about things here, but now people have a chance to do something about it. Don't accept being blown off and see if Mr. Lampson will do the honorable thing and answer some questions.

      You're right, the discussions here have been based in fact. The only missing piece was being able to confront (maybe that's too harsh a word) Mr. Lampson with those facts.

      Bring your questions, see what happens and if Lampson ducks you then write about it here, to Michael O'Keeffe, to the Better Business Bureau and to the local authorities. But do something.

      And if someone brings a video camera to document the conversation- more power to them. Maybe we'll post it here. Just be professional.

      Eric
      Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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      • kingjammy24
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 3119

        #18
        Re: Lampson to be at the National?

        eric,

        kudos to you for your resolve.

        "I'd make sure I didn't leave until I had a telephone number"

        that could get very interesting.

        "I would have no problem taking things to the next level"

        something tells me the entire reason lampson's so hard to find is because he's used to people taking things to next level.

        "And if someone brings a video camera to document the conversation"

        we could take a cue from dateline; "to catch an authenticator". i'll play the role of an auction house owner whose only concern is profit (as hard as it might be to imagine. i may also need to borrow a leopard-print shirt for my costume). i've got 2000 jerseys and i need to get through them in 3 days. we'll see who shows up. eric, you'd make an excellent chris hansen.

        seriously though, i'm all for walking the walk and admire your tenacity.
        as they say in texas, hook 'em! (professionally though).

        rudy.

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        • otismalibu
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 1650

          #19
          Re: Lampson to be at the National?

          At this point, what else is there to do but joke about it.

          Does anyone really think they can walk up to Lou, point out an obvious mistake and get a satisfactory response?

          What's he going to say? "Geez, I didn't realize I'd made so many mistakes. Let me make everything right."

          At least some of the other crooks in the hobby will make an appearance here and try to defend themselves until it becomes painfully apparent that they don't have a leg to stand on.

          It would make more sense to go the The National wearing a t-shirt that says "Read About Lou Lampson At GameUsedForum.com". I hate to point out that the emperor is buck, but most of these mistakes are NOT honest mistakes. And I'm not just talking about Lou. If you have replica, try to pass it off as a game issue. If you have a game issue, make it into a gamer. Then maybe say it was the gamer that was worn during a milestone game. We see it every day.
          Greg
          DrJStuff.com

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          • Eric
            Senior Member
            • Jan 1970
            • 2848

            #20
            Re: Lampson to be at the National?

            Greg-

            All valid points.

            I just feel that we need to continue to act responsibly and give the man a chance to answer face to face. If he gives an excuse or runs away then that's his decision and he is responsible for his actions. But let's take this as an invitation to talk to Lou Lampson.
            Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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            • mvandor
              Banned
              • Apr 2007
              • 1032

              #21
              Re: Lampson to be at the National?

              Originally posted by ChrisCavalier
              Eric,

              Sometimes I think we are fraternal twins. I was going to say exactly the same thing.

              I trust if anyone does meet Lou at the National it would be in a non-confrontational manner with the intent to benefit the hobby.

              Sincerely,
              Chris
              And let's lunch with Bin Laden while we're at it!

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              • both-teams-played-hard
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 2712

                #22
                Re: Lampson to be at the National?

                Originally posted by kingjammy24
                we could take a cue from dateline; "to catch an authenticator"
                If this was a show, I can hear Lou saying: "I wasn't going to authenticate her jersey. I just came over to make sure she was O.K."

                "Frozen lemonade? Yes, please."

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                • Eric
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 1970
                  • 2848

                  #23
                  Re: Lampson to be at the National?

                  Is anyone from the forum going to the national?

                  Dan- is the green ripken jersey making the trip to cleveland to get some in person answers?
                  Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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                  • lund6771
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 805

                    #24
                    Re: Lampson to be at the National?

                    I'll be there for 1 day!!!

                    Pete

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                    • rose14
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 321

                      #25
                      Re: Lampson to be at the National?

                      I'll be there for three days and if I do see him I will ask him about a certain jersey that was in a major auction recently and he still decided to ok it even after the player that wore the jersey said it was not real.

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                      • both-teams-played-hard
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 2712

                        #26
                        Re: Lampson to be at the National?

                        Originally posted by rose14
                        I'll be there for three days and if I do see him I will ask him about a certain jersey that was in a major auction recently and he still decided to ok it even after the player that wore the jersey said it was not real.
                        Rose
                        Did you speak to Lampson about the Louisville jersey?

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