Bonds Homer Reaction

[allstarsplus]

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Steiner is doing a signing with Mike Bascik today.

Andrew

Footnote to this previous post that the Steiner signing got cancelled.

I was at the Nationals game last night and witnessed one of the largest pre-game crowds in Washington trying to get Mike Bacsik to sign autographs. Mike signed anything anyone wanted for about 10 minutes. The local CBS and NBC affiliates were doing pre-game interviews also as the Nats signed their other #1 pick Josh Smoker (Smoker also signed auto's).

I hadn't read my email from Steiner yesterday afternon saying the Bacsis signing was cancelled so I asked Mike how the signing went in the morning with Steiner, and he said it was cancelled and he is doing a signing on Saturday with "Mounted" and is also considering doing a signing with BarryBonds.com

Outside of Washington, not too many people ever heard of Mike Bacsik before the 756 HR, and some probably couldn't care less now, but this new found fame is amazing to witness.

Andrew

[allstarsplus]

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I think the biggest hero of the night has to be Mike Bascik. If anyone saw his on air interview immediately after the at bat and his press conference after the game, you would have been truly impressed with his 100% professional demeanor. He was so happy you'd have thought that he hit the homer himself. He stood head and shoulders above what anyone expected of a pitcher in that situation.

GO NATS!

Steiner is doing a signing with Mike Bascik today.

Andrew

[sportscentury]

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Warren,

Thanks - unfortunately I'm only half-reading many of these posts/threads due to too much going on here ... Eric emailed me about this and I still missed the reference. What can I say?

I don't feel bad about hijacking this thread (though it was not my intention ... besides you are the one who threw me off!). Actually, these posts are far more polite than how they would read if I expressed what I thought and felt when I watched Barry hit the "record-breaking" homerun. My favorite quote was during the press conference when Barry said "This record is not tainted at all, not in the slightest" or something to that effect. Ummm, what?!?! What color is the sky in his world? Oh yeah... it's green.

By the way, yes, I now completely understand how funny you think you are. Actually, as you know, I've gotten many good laughs out of your posts. Good stuff.

Best,
Reid

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Somewhere around here I've got a couple of photos of him in action, if anyone cares (though I doubt anyone does).

*super rare high number, single-printed.

[David]

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I wish to rephrase the professor, saying "If you don't know what you were taking, how do you know you didn't take sustance X. The only way you could know you didn't take substance X is you know what you were taken."

My point being is that the only way Bonds can say "I know I never used steroids" is if he knows what he was taking. But he also says he didn't know what he was taking. Obviously there is a inherent logical conflict between the two Bonds' stores, and it's impossible for them both to be true. How can you know if you don't know? The answer is, you can't know if you don't know, so don't say you know.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Warren,

Pollock was all the rave during the abstract expressionism movement (and has remained pretty famous in the art world). I never cared for his work that much, but some others, such as Willem de Kooning, produced some pretty thoughtful work. I think people liked Pollock as much for his technique as his product, as he would literally fling paint across a huge canvas as it lay on the floor, and the result was a seemingly random spattering of various paint colors (hence the joking reference made in this thread). Somewhere around here I've got a couple of photos of him in action, if anyone cares (though I doubt anyone does). I could never make much (meaningful) sense of his pieces.

Best,
Reid

Reid
You should know that I have a dry sense of humor! "Who the F**k is Jackson Pollack?" is the title of a documentary about a lady who found a supposed, unknown Pollack at a thrift store for $5.
Scroll down on the Pollack wikipage for the link.
Now do you see how funny I think I am?

Warren

Who the f**k is Norman Rockwell?
Reid-Go ahead and post the "in-action" photos of Pollack..Do you feel bad about hiijacking a Barry Bonds tribute thread?

[David]

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One last thing. Bonds admitted he used the clear (steroids) but claimed he thought it was flaxseed and just used it because he trainer gave it to him and said it was flaxseed oil.

Even if one believes Bonds' take on this is honest and correct, how then can he make claims he never used steroids. Even excluding from this equation the above clear incident, he admitted he 'just used what his trainer handed him' and, at least once, mistook flaxseed oil for steroids. This would also obviously mean that Bonds, if honestly mistaken about the flaxseed, used a trainer who was willing and able to slip him steroids under the name of a harmless name.

If Bonds' take is accurate (ignorant, just used the stuff his trainer gave him, didn't know the flaxseed oil was steroids) and Bonds is honest and of normal intelligence, he would have no other choice to deduce that, "It is possible that I unknowingly used steroids other times too."

When Bonds' says "I never took steroids in my career" (excluding the clear incident), that statement is logically against his own take on the flaxseed story. The two don't connect logically.

In a logics class 101, a professor would tell a student that the statements "I don't know what I was using" and 'I never took substance X" are illogical, and one of them has to be wrong.

[geoff]

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Ichiro has the sweetest swing that I have ever seen.That is why he hits the ball so well.I love the Japanese players swings and have alot of Respect for those guys.

[David]

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I saw a Pollack painting yesterday at the Seattle Art Museum. Some of his paintings sold for like $50 million plus.

As far as Bonds goes, he hit some of his home runs while using steroids. He admitted this (flaxseed/clear), so that is fact. I'm surprised no one asked him, "Okay, for the sake of argument, let's assume you thought you were using flax seed. How long did you use this flax seed oil?"

His trainer isn't sitting in prison because he doesn't want to say Barry Bonds likes candy canes and The Simpsons reruns.

Okay now, Bonds admitted to the grand jury that his trainer gave his steroids but that he 'thought' it was flax seed. Bonds said never knowingly used nor would use steroids and is the against the use of steroids. He even lectured his son Nokolai against steroids on television. So why, then, does he support and stay friends with and say glowing things about the trainer he paid who slipped him the steroids!?!?! Wouldn't someone like Bonds who was adamantly against steroids (as he claimms) and the use of it being suing Anderson for slipping the steroids? Wouldn't Bonds or you or anyone else report a gym trainer who slipped you steroids to the police and volunteer to to testify against him in court? Isn't supporting the trainer, saying what a great and trusted friend he is, the last thing Bonds or you or anyone else be doing if the slipped you steroids under the name 'flaxseed oil'?

San Francisco fans support him, but if he played for the Mets, Braves, Red Sox or any other team, they would have the same opinion Bonds as the people outside of San Francisco ... I admit that I am not without team loyalty. It's not coincidence that I was raised in Wisconsin and my favorite player is Robin Yount.

[sportscentury]

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Excuse me while I hijack this Barry lovefest..But, who the f**k is Jackson Pollack?

Warren,

Pollock was all the rave during the abstract expressionism movement (and has remained pretty famous in the art world). I never cared for his work that much, but some others, such as Willem de Kooning, produced some pretty thoughtful work. I think people liked Pollock as much for his technique as his product, as he would literally fling paint across a huge canvas as it lay on the floor, and the result was a seemingly random spattering of various paint colors (hence the joking reference made in this thread). Somewhere around here I've got a couple of photos of him in action, if anyone cares (though I doubt anyone does). I could never make much (meaningful) sense of his pieces.

Best,
Reid

[bigtime59]

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I did not see 756. I had just spent the evening in Camden Yards trying to see whether my seat or me melted first. (As it turned out, it was the Orioles' bullpen that melted, but oh, well...)

[bigtime59]

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I realize homers are fun to watch. But to the true baseball fan, would you rather watch Bonds or Ichiro?

Ichiro, hands down. Chicks may dig the longball, but I'd rather see a triple than a home run any day of the week. Besides, as an Orioles fan, I've virtually forgotten what it feels like to see my team hit a HR!

[both-teams-played-hard]

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I realize homers are fun to watch. But to the true baseball fan, would you rather watch Bonds or Ichiro?

[JasonM33]

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There was a time in the lat 90's that I thought Barry Bonds was the best all-around player in the moern era. Now I'm not so sure. I'm conflicted about the whole homerun record thing. I'm not really mad about it, but I'm not happy either. The records have been diminished in my opinion. Once these guys started hitting 60 and 70 homeruns after age 35 I lost interest. If they would have kept hitting 40 or 50 I would have been fine with it. I know, I'm a hypocrite. I'm just being honest.

-Jason M

[godwulf]

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Hey, do you think Mike Bacsik memorabilia is gonna increase in value now?

Just kidding.

Actually, it's not for sale, but I just realized that I have a road jersey Bacsik wore with Team USA during the 2006 Olympic qualifying tournament - the team that beat the Cubans in Havana in the final game. I bought Bacsik's jersey, one from Mark Reynolds (currently the DBacks' starting 3rd Baseman), and the lineup card from the American dugout, that last game against the Cubans. I got Reynolds to sign his jersey for me a couple of months ago, and I considered having him sign the card - he was in the starting lineup that night - but then decided that it ought to be preserved as is.