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  • suave1477
    Banned
    • Jan 2006
    • 4266

    #16
    Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

    LOOK EVERYONE!!!

    Does it really matter who is on the list all the list does is just implicating who received performance enhancing drugs there is still no direct positive proof that any of them took it which an investigation has all been started by a guy who got caught and to ligten his jail time was to be a rat.

    So if you can stand here and say McGwire and Bonds records should stay or not make a fuss about there records being held in the Hall of Fame, then what does it matter whos name is on the list. I mean seriously the Hall of Fame carries tainted records so what does all this really prove are those records ever really going to be brought down NO.

    So we will just continue to enjoying baseball as we see it on TV knowing there will be a dark cloud over baseball.

    AND that is all this report is going to do is add to the dark cloud. Is it going to help baseball??? maybe you say it will clean up baseball??? No it wont because this is just an implication of names not any direct proof and its getting harder and harder for these new performance enhancing drugs to test positive so this is going to always be an on going problem in baseball because there will always be greed which is a human nature and cannot be changed.

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    • TFig27
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 1214

      #17
      Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

      I heard Eddie Gaedel was on the list:


      Now I need to sell my game used jersey of his
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      • bigtruck260
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1729

        #18
        Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

        If Albert is there - not surprised that he is linked...but surprised if he actually USED PED.

        A shocker was Darryl Kile...man - he's DEAD.

        Dave
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        • Rob L
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 1237

          #19
          Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

          Not Eddie Gaedel That's funny, my 13 year old son and I were talking about the leaks from this report today and we ended up talking about Eddie Gaedel. I told him that his jersey was out there but I never knew who had it. Too bad he doesn't have a game used Spring Training jersey.

          Rob L
          Rob L
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          Always On the Look Out for Troy Percival & Randy Johnson Gamers

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          • TFig27
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 1214

            #20
            Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

            Originally posted by Rob L
            Not Eddie Gaedel That's funny, my 13 year old son and I were talking about the leaks from this report today and we ended up talking about Eddie Gaedel. I told him that his jersey was out there but I never knew who had it. Too bad he doesn't have a game used Spring Training jersey.

            Rob L
            I just found the picture of that jersey online, I don't own it, although it would be a very interesting piece.
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            A. Boone - R. Cano - N. Swisher - T. Martinez - P. O'Neill - E. Hinske
            J. Damon - R. Brogna - D. Bragg - W. Upshaw - K. Farnsworth

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            • DConLA
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 169

              #21
              Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

              HELLO GUYS DOES THIS LIST REALLY SUPRISE ANY OF YOU. BECAUSE IF IT DOES I HAVE SOME BEACHFRONT PROPERTY IN THE DESERT I HAVE FOR SALE.
              DAN 323 257-4898 daniel248@earthlink.net

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              • staindsox
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 777

                #22
                Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                In case anyone is interested, The Hall has the Eddie Gaedel jersey.

                Chris
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                • sicollector1954@insightbb.com
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 135

                  #23
                  Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                  Glad I collect game used pre-70 stuff!

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                  • kingjammy24
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3119

                    #24
                    Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                    Originally posted by suave1477
                    ..all the list does is just implicating who received performance enhancing drugs there is still no direct positive proof that any of them took it ..
                    hot diggity, the report isn't even out yet and already the denials are comin! MLB PR would be proud. let's get a few others out of the way:

                    - "i thought it was flax oil!"
                    - "sure i ordered steroids, but i never actually used them. i just like receiving packages".
                    - "i accidentally sat on all of those needles!"

                    can't wait to see what randy hendricks whips up.

                    Originally posted by suave1477
                    .. I mean seriously the Hall of Fame carries tainted records so what does all this really prove are those records ever really going to be brought down NO...maybe you say it will clean up baseball??? No it wont because this is just an implication of names not any direct proof and its getting harder and harder for these new performance enhancing drugs to test positive so this is going to always be an on going problem in baseball because there will always be greed which is a human nature and cannot be changed.
                    here here. people will always commit crimes so why bother even having laws against anything or persecuting anyone for anything.

                    anyway, i imagine once the list comes out, there'll be a few people who'll say the list is a sham or there's no real proof or whatnot. i'd like to ask those people a small favor. when you post, could you please also include what jerseys or bats you own from players on the list? thx.

                    rudy.

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                    • bigjimsguitars
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 302

                      #25
                      Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                      King:

                      I own a Gagne Jersey and Bat, a Pair of Big Mac's Batting Gloves, a Canseco Batting Glove, as well as some Frank Thomas stuff (oops, he's not on the unofficial list).

                      I would like to point out that I don't collect because of the value or what it will be worth (yes, it's always nice to have stuff that appreciates), but rather because I like the stuff.

                      If my stuff becomes valuable down the road that will be wonderful, but again that is only a secondary consideration....

                      You only lose if you sell.....
                      Always looking for Dodger Game Used Jerseys

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                      • YankeeChowda
                        Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 60

                        #26
                        Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                        dunno if anyone posted this yet... but heres the report...
                        www.mlb.com/mitchellreport

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                        • bagbig
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 142

                          #27
                          Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                          Bagwell and Pujols are NOT on the real list.

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                          • ChrisCavalier
                            Paid Users
                            • Jan 1970
                            • 1967

                            #28
                            Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                            Originally posted by YankeeChowda
                            dunno if anyone posted this yet... but heres the report...
                            www.mlb.com/mitchellreport
                            Glad to see this posted. It appears some the names being circulated earlier weren't consistent with what was in the report. I think it shows the value of getting accurate information.

                            Sincerely,
                            Chris
                            Christopher Cavalier
                            Consignment Director - Heritage Auctions

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                            • suave1477
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 4266

                              #29
                              Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                              Originally posted by kingjammy24
                              hot diggity, the report isn't even out yet and already the denials are comin! MLB PR would be proud. let's get a few others out of the way:

                              - "i thought it was flax oil!"
                              - "sure i ordered steroids, but i never actually used them. i just like receiving packages".
                              - "i accidentally sat on all of those needles!"

                              can't wait to see what randy hendricks whips up.



                              here here. people will always commit crimes so why bother even having laws against anything or persecuting anyone for anything.

                              anyway, i imagine once the list comes out, there'll be a few people who'll say the list is a sham or there's no real proof or whatnot. i'd like to ask those people a small favor. when you post, could you please also include what jerseys or bats you own from players on the list? thx.

                              rudy.

                              Uuuum excuse me KingJammy, I am not sure if you purposely took my words out of context to make humor of it or to try to make a serious point.

                              But I will say this to the first comment qouted. I am not denying anything I am just mearly making a point. I know as well as everyone else does they took the stuff when it was shipped to there house and didnt accidently open up a package and by accident stuck themself with a needle, but we do live in America and last time I checked unless direct proof is given nothing else much can be done other then writing up a report.

                              To your second comment I am not saying we shouldnt have laws but I don't know if your aware of this but the Mitchell erport is not a law its just that, a report. A report of names of who we believe was invlolved, so can anyone be punished in a manner where it will make people think, change there ways, or out right be honest and say "hey from no on and forever we will place the game honestly" NO

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                              • suave1477
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 4266

                                #30
                                Re: Sell your Clemens stuff..

                                Well here so far is the most accurate reported list from the New York Daily News


                                Marvin Benard
                                Barry Bonds
                                Bobby Estelella
                                Jason Giambi
                                Jeremy Giambi
                                Benito Santiago
                                Gary Sheffield
                                Randy Velarde
                                Chris Donnels
                                Lenny Dykstra
                                David Segui (via a cancelled check from Segui to Kirk Radomski)
                                Larry Bigbie
                                Brian Roberts
                                Jack Cust
                                Tim Laker
                                Josias Manzanillo
                                Todd Hundley
                                Mark Carrion
                                Hal Morris
                                Matt Franco
                                Rondell White
                                Roger Clemens
                                Andy Pettitte
                                Chuck Knoblauch
                                Jason Grimsley
                                Greg Zaun
                                David Justice
                                Frank Santangelo
                                Glenallen Hill
                                Mo Vaughn
                                Denny Neagle
                                Ryan Franklin
                                Todd Williams
                                Phil Hiatt
                                Paul Lo Duca
                                Todd Pratt
                                Miguel Tejada
                                Kevin Young
                                Mike Lansing
                                Cody McKay
                                Kent Mercker
                                Adam Piatt
                                Paul Byrd
                                Troy Glaus
                                Jason Christiansen
                                Mike Stanton
                                Stephen Randolph
                                Jerry Hairston
                                Adam Riggs
                                Bart Miadich
                                Fernando Vina
                                Kevin Brown
                                Eric Gagne
                                Mike Bell
                                Matt Herges
                                Gary Bennett, Jr.
                                Jim Parque
                                Brendon Donnelly
                                Chad Allen
                                Jeff Williams
                                Howie Clark
                                Exavier Logan
                                Daniel Naulty
                                Rick Ankiel
                                David Bell
                                Jose Canseco
                                Jay Gibbons
                                Jason Grimsley
                                Jose Guillen
                                Jerry Hairston
                                Darren Holmes
                                Gary Matthews Jr.
                                John Rocker
                                Scott Schoenweiss
                                Ismael Valdez
                                Matt Williams
                                Steve Woodard

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