Ebay Boycott Starts Today - Join In

[bigtime59]

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I believe that this "no negs for buyers" policy isn't going to last all that long. Sellers can simply adapt by refusing to leave feedback until feedback is received...and state that--along with the reason why--boldly in their eBay listings. (I know I'll be rewriting my boilerplate soon.)
I've taken negatives I didn't deserve, but I've never been afraid to leave negative or neutral feedback when I felt it was called for.
It is what it is. We're just going to have to adapt...until it changes again, and we have to adapt to whatever the new policy is.

[suave1477]

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Personally, I've bought/sold on ebay for 10yrs & have 100% feedback. If you don't give the buyer a reason to leave you negative feedback, then I don't see a problem, most either leave the appropriate feedback or none at all as previously mentioned. Also, didn't ebay just issue a statement lowering fees starting Feb. 20th? Lastly, in my opinion, the Game Used Forum is not a place that ebay should be debated. Let's stick to the hobby. Jay.

I am sorry I completely disagree with you on this. I have done nothing wrong in any of my transactions on ebay yet my rating is 99.3% instead of a 100%, WHY, because a package may have arrived a day or 2 after the buyer expected, due to the US Post office or UPS, something completely out of my control and the buyer was too impatient and left me a negative feedback, So I ended up suffering.
I wont mention names but someone who I won a game used item from on ebay I sent then a payment immediatley after the seller started complaining that he didnt receive the payment after I explained to him several times I did, he turned around and left me a negative feedback, then a day later emails me saying he made a mistake and found my payment mixed up in his mail.
Another I won something from ebay sent the seller the payment never received the item, sent email after email no response after 3 weeks. I left a negative feedback, in retaliation the seller left me a negative feedback. Yet he never once contacted me or ever sent me my item.

[suave1477]

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Your ebay boycott will prove to be as inaffective as the yearly "gas boycotts". If you could get as many as a million users to stay away from ebay for a week it would still amount to only a flea bite on an elephant's a$$.

I have to agree with 34swtns if your going to do a boycott towards ebay to truley hurt them you have to organize something way ahead of time and get people truly on board to all do it at the same time.

Posting the day before your doing a boycoott is not going to work.

Ebay is a million dollar a day industry do you honestly think they are going to cry if you get 20 maybe 50 or even a 100 people to boycott them for one week.
Here is my best bet, I am willing to bet they don't even notice you.

So after your boycott do not expect an email from ebay apologizing for how much they have been overcharging sellers or to revert back to there old feedback system.

[godwulf]

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If I owned or ran eBay, the two changes I would make with regard to feedback would be to make it easier to retract, in the event of misunderstandings or feedback left in anger, and to set up a system whereby some nut (like the one who Neg'ed me some years ago) who only bids on an item every six months or so and always leaves Negative feedback - somebody whose hobby is obviously just messing up Sellers' 100% rating - would simply have their feedback erased, if it was obvious that's what they were doing.

That said, I have to agree with those who've expressed, in so many words, the opinion that an eBay "boycott" is somewhat like spitting into the wind, at this point...unless you could somehow get a few million people to go along with it for an extended period of time.

[sammy]

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Suave and 34sw:

You are both misinformed and under the wrong impression. This is not "my" boycott, but one I simply decided to join after I found out about it. If you would read some different message boards beside the GUF board, perhaps you would have known about this weeks ago when the boycott actually started getting organized.

I included two links from other boards where this was discussed in an earlier posting. As you may see, this started in January, not the day before it officially began.

My initial posting on here was to inform others that may not have been aware of this, not to organize a boycott.

Perhaps this boycott will not change a thing. Then again, perhaps it will have eBay reconsider their ill conceived feedback policy change.

If people quit buying and selling on eBay for a week, they will feel it eventually. Even if it is just one week every month or two.

Their revenue has already been decreasing, that is why they instituted these policy changes. If it decreases more because of these boycotts, perhaps they will revise the one policy change that most people are in disagreement with. That being the unequal playing field in regard to negative feedback.

If you never try, you will never achieve. You can accept things as other people dictate to you, or you can say "enough" and try to change the circumstances.

Every journey starts with a single step.

This boycott is the first step.

[suave1477]

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Suave and 34sw:

You are both misinformed and under the wrong impression. This is not "my" boycott, but one I simply decided to join after I found out about it. If you would read some different message boards beside the GUF board, perhaps you would have known about this weeks ago when the boycott actually started getting organized.

I included two links from other boards where this was discussed in an earlier posting. As you may see, this started in January, not the day before it officially began.

My initial posting on here was to inform others that may not have been aware of this, not to organize a boycott.

Perhaps this boycott will not change a thing. Then again, perhaps it will have eBay reconsider their ill conceived feedback policy change.

If people quit buying and selling on eBay for a week, they will feel it eventually. Even if it is just one week every month or two.

Their revenue has already been decreasing, that is why they instituted these policy changes. If it decreases more because of these boycotts, perhaps they will revise the one policy change that most people are in disagreement with. That being the unequal playing field in regard to negative feedback.

If you never try, you will never achieve. You can accept things as other people dictate to you, or you can say "enough" and try to change the circumstances.

Every journey starts with a single step.

This boycott is the first step.

I am not saying you directly Sammy were organizing the boycott as far as looking at other forums, I do from time to time but really have no interest too. As far as it havinf ebay reconsider or changing something IT WONT. Again your sailing to realize the absolute no impact /effect you will have towards ebay. Ebay is a million dollar a day businessthat's 7 million over a week span and your trying to hurt them by taking a loss of $1,000 to if your lucky $10,000 dollars once a month.
Dude the owner of ebay spens that for his triple cotton sheeted with pink flower toilet paper made by Ralph Lauren.

You say its a first step, no its not. It is pissing in the wind as another member said earlier.
Making a first step is when you can ORGANIZE a real boycott. Not send out over a few forums "Hey Everyone were gonna boycott on XYZ date"
So if we didn't hear about it here sooner tells me its not that serious. If I was organizing a Boycott I would take time to find and locate every possible Hobby site/forum. Try to get directly in touch with people and make them aware of whats going on set up a possible website of what would be going on. Send out a spam email to people to try to attract others outside of the Hobby Industry.

I didn't see any tacttic at all then getting a word a mouth from you/sammy the daybefore the whole thing.

I am not putting any of this on you I am just saying what the person who is organizng this should have done to even become a bite on an elephants a$$ because at this point it is not even going to be a bite.

Simple math
Lets sat at most you cause them to lose $10,000 a month
They make around 28 mil a month

I dont think I need to go any further.

[sammy]

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Well, accept what others dictate to you.

I don't lay down that easy.

[TNTtoys]

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Just wanted to throw into this argument the fact that ebay is holding a pretty big trump card...

If an organized boycott causes ebay to lose a small percentage of their fees for a given week, all they will need to do is send a broadcast out to sellers for a "20 cent listing day" or similar promotion, and the items for sale will be back on their site in droves.

For example, I run a daily search on specific game used items, which normally yields about 400-500 results. Last week, ebay ran a 20 cent listing promotion, and everyone came out of the woodwork to list their items. One day later, that same search yielded 750 items. Sure, they were listed at lower prices, but should a great number of them sell, ebay will rake it in with the final value fees.

You simply cannot compete with this kind of a move with a boycott. Let's just say for instance the boycott wipes out 10% of this category for the week. The ebay trump card will squash it tenfold.

[TFig27]

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No one forces you to buy or sell on eBay. If you are unhappy with them as a company, just stop doing business with them. One week will not do it.

I think they should offer free listings this week. That would be fun.

[commando]

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The only true way to take on eBay is to open or patronize another online auction site. Unfortunately, others have done exactly that, with very little success. Right here in Grants Pass, Oregon is a company called OnlineAuction.com. They were created a few years ago to do internet auctions the "right" way, and have a nice building and a few employees here in town.

But, even after five years or so, you can go to OnlineAuction.com and see that they are no threat to eBay whatsoever. I went there just now and typed in the keyword "USFL." Two auctions showed up. I typed in "used jersey" and got 32 auctions.

When all is said and done, where are sellers listing their items? eBay! Sellers list items on eBay because that's where their items get viewed and bid upon. Sure, if you list a $100 item on another site for a starting bid of $10, you'll probably get a bite. But where are the others who will bid the price higher? You have to be an insane seller to list a free-market item on a small auction site.

[34swtns]

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Hey sport,

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

"Hey sport" yourself, "chum".

That being said, if nothing is to be gained I prefer to venture nothing.

Crazy realistic me.

Enjoy your boycott.

[sammy]

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How do all of you pessimistic people spouting all your negativity get anywhere in life? Then again, maybe this is your life.

Some concerned individuals are at least trying to right a perceived wrong and negativity is what most of you post.

Have a piece of cheese to go with your whine.

[suave1477]

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Sammy nooooooooo this is your life your the one who is whining none of us are complaining.

I am sure some, if not most, of us would be involved with a REAL boycott that was going to make some progress.


But basically making a pretend boycott that NO ONE WILL HEAR - WILL GET YOU NOTHING.


ITS LIKE YOUR TRYING TO SHOVEL SNOW UPHILL AND IT KEEPS FALLING BACK DOWN AND YOU THINK YOUR DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE YOUR SHOVELING.

IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO MAKE HEADWAY GET A PLOW TO PUSH THE SNOW TO THE SIDE INSTEAD OF JUST PUSHING IT IN FRONT OF YOU TO JUST WATCH IT ROLL BACK DOWN.

[sammy]

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Suave,

Being as you have 2160 posts, and basically comment on everything and anything, I would venture that this is YOUR life.

One person may only be a shovel, but many would make that plow your refer to. Guess you and many others would prefer to be just more snow getting in the way.

Perhaps in the future, if you get an undeserved negative and there isn't anything you can do, just sit back and go BAAAAAAAAA.

Last post from me on this subject.

Wishing all of you the best!

[TFig27]

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Suave,

Being as you have 2160 posts, and basically comment on everything and anything, I would venture that this is YOUR life.

One person may only be a shovel, but many would make that plow your refer to. Guess you and many others would prefer to be just more snow getting in the way.

Perhaps in the future, if you get an undeserved negative and there isn't anything you can do, just sit back and go BAAAAAAAAA.

Last post from me on this subject.

Wishing all of you the best!

If you do the type of business where this price increase would affect you, one negative will not tarnish your feedback rating.

Think of stores like Walmart. Do you think they have a 99% or 98% customer approval?

I think they sell snow shovels there too.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA