Ebay Boycott Starts Today - Join In

[godwulf]

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If I owned or ran eBay, the two changes I would make with regard to feedback would be to make it easier to retract, in the event of misunderstandings or feedback left in anger, and to set up a system whereby some nut (like the one who Neg'ed me some years ago) who only bids on an item every six months or so and always leaves Negative feedback - somebody whose hobby is obviously just messing up Sellers' 100% rating - would simply have their feedback erased, if it was obvious that's what they were doing.

That said, I have to agree with those who've expressed, in so many words, the opinion that an eBay "boycott" is somewhat like spitting into the wind, at this point...unless you could somehow get a few million people to go along with it for an extended period of time.

[suave1477]

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Your ebay boycott will prove to be as inaffective as the yearly "gas boycotts". If you could get as many as a million users to stay away from ebay for a week it would still amount to only a flea bite on an elephant's a$$.

I have to agree with 34swtns if your going to do a boycott towards ebay to truley hurt them you have to organize something way ahead of time and get people truly on board to all do it at the same time.

Posting the day before your doing a boycoott is not going to work.

Ebay is a million dollar a day industry do you honestly think they are going to cry if you get 20 maybe 50 or even a 100 people to boycott them for one week.
Here is my best bet, I am willing to bet they don't even notice you.

So after your boycott do not expect an email from ebay apologizing for how much they have been overcharging sellers or to revert back to there old feedback system.

[suave1477]

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Personally, I've bought/sold on ebay for 10yrs & have 100% feedback. If you don't give the buyer a reason to leave you negative feedback, then I don't see a problem, most either leave the appropriate feedback or none at all as previously mentioned. Also, didn't ebay just issue a statement lowering fees starting Feb. 20th? Lastly, in my opinion, the Game Used Forum is not a place that ebay should be debated. Let's stick to the hobby. Jay.

I am sorry I completely disagree with you on this. I have done nothing wrong in any of my transactions on ebay yet my rating is 99.3% instead of a 100%, WHY, because a package may have arrived a day or 2 after the buyer expected, due to the US Post office or UPS, something completely out of my control and the buyer was too impatient and left me a negative feedback, So I ended up suffering.
I wont mention names but someone who I won a game used item from on ebay I sent then a payment immediatley after the seller started complaining that he didnt receive the payment after I explained to him several times I did, he turned around and left me a negative feedback, then a day later emails me saying he made a mistake and found my payment mixed up in his mail.
Another I won something from ebay sent the seller the payment never received the item, sent email after email no response after 3 weeks. I left a negative feedback, in retaliation the seller left me a negative feedback. Yet he never once contacted me or ever sent me my item.

[bigtime59]

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I believe that this "no negs for buyers" policy isn't going to last all that long. Sellers can simply adapt by refusing to leave feedback until feedback is received...and state that--along with the reason why--boldly in their eBay listings. (I know I'll be rewriting my boilerplate soon.)
I've taken negatives I didn't deserve, but I've never been afraid to leave negative or neutral feedback when I felt it was called for.
It is what it is. We're just going to have to adapt...until it changes again, and we have to adapt to whatever the new policy is.

[sammy]

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Hey sport,

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

At least there are people trying to do something against a issue they disagree with.

While others just sit back and whine about how ineffective something my be.

[34swtns]

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Your ebay boycott will prove to be as inaffective as the yearly "gas boycotts". If you could get as many as a million users to stay away from ebay for a week it would still amount to only a flea bite on an elephant's a$$.

[otismalibu]

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I won an item recently on eBay and paid right away with Paypal. As the weeks went by, I kept emailing the seller to get an update. After a month, they angrily responded. I shifted to kiss @ss mode and got my money back. But I checked his feedback for the prior weeks, every time he got a negative or a neutral because the buyer was in the same boat as I was, he would retaliate with a negative. Dozens of eBay buyers got undeserved negatives. I'm guessing this is the type of behavior they're trying to put an end to.

I sell occasionally on eBay and have had to leave a few negatives over the years. I suppose someone could try to cause problems, but I've never had that issue. The worst anyone has done to me is not pay. And it's not like I send the item out before payment.

[TNTtoys]

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Personally, I've bought/sold on ebay for 10yrs & have 100% feedback. If you don't give the buyer a reason to leave you negative feedback, then I don't see a problem, most either leave the appropriate feedback or none at all as previously mentioned. Also, didn't ebay just issue a statement lowering fees starting Feb. 20th? Lastly, in my opinion, the Game Used Forum is not a place that ebay should be debated. Let's stick to the hobby. Jay.

Jay,

Couldn't disagree more.

I too have been buying and selling on ebay for 10 years and have a perfect 100%. My wife hasn't been as lucky. Her seller's reputation is tarnished because of a couple of bad buyers. One went as far as destroying a valuable item she sold, then got all of her money back through a chargeback. We not only lost the money, the item, but got a nice shining negative too. For nothing. The only thing she was able to in return was put a warning to other sellers under the buyer's feeback. This is no longer. I predict that with this new feedback system, sellers will be victimized much more.
Part of the reason sellers like us have 100% positive feedback is because the 'fear of the negative' has kept buyers in line throughout the years. With no recourse to their actions, this will change. I don't think by too much, but it will... and there is nothing that sellers are able to do now to limit the damage.

Also, I believe that Game Used Forum IS a place where ebay should be discussed because it is the marketplace/source of the vast percentage of items from our hobby that we buy and sell regularly. For better or worse, the tie between ebay and the game used hobby is not going to change anytime soon.

Nick

[pietraynor]

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Personally, I've bought/sold on ebay for 10yrs & have 100% feedback. If you don't give the buyer a reason to leave you negative feedback, then I don't see a problem, most either leave the appropriate feedback or none at all as previously mentioned. Also, didn't ebay just issue a statement lowering fees starting Feb. 20th? Lastly, in my opinion, the Game Used Forum is not a place that ebay should be debated. Let's stick to the hobby. Jay.

[sammy]

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Here are two threads in regard to the eBay boycott. As you will read, many have pledged to boycott eBay during this week. Both buyers and sellers, as it will effect everyone in one way or the other.

To those who do support the boycott, I thank you. To the others........................


http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?tstart=0&threadID=1000636290&mod=12019 83218017&anticache=1202237856678


http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1202238221/last-1203442396/OT-++Ebay+Seller+Strike

[stlbats]

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I tell you the problem I have with ebay users. So many of them are too darn lazy to even leave feedback period. I transaction can go as smooth as ever and they wont leave you feedback. Hard to build up a rating. It also seems tough for people to send emails.


Jason

[bigtruck260]

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As a seller, I hate the fact that buyers are immune to negatives. There are too many people that choose to screw up and do not care about consequenses.

As a buyer - there is nothing better. I will be like the Swiss - and takle a neutral stance during the boycott. I will not sell any high end stuff...

Ebay has issues, but I have found some great deals there - and saved TONS of money over the years. I use it for far more than just sports related stuff. I buy clothes, DVD's, pretty much everything...at a fraction of retail cost.

Out of 1000+ transactions, I have dealt with 3 unresolved transactions. There have been plenty of issues, but all were eventually closed.

Dave

[sammy]

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I don't begrudge them their increase in fees, as it is still the best deal around.

My main contention, as with most people, is their feedback change in regard to only a buyer being able to leave a negative. Without that change, I am fairly certain a boycott would not have been called for.

Just because it is the only game in town, doesn't mean I have to play, or even attend.

It is a personal choice, and one I choose to make. It might not make a bit of difference, but as the saying goes, if you don't vote, don't complain.

[ironmanfan]

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it won't change my buying or spending habits one bit (in fact I'm eyeing some pretty nice pieces that will end within the next 3-4 days). Like everything in life, it's a personal choice. If it gets to the point where there are better alternatives, I'll consider stopping, otherwise it's business as usual for me.

[allstarsplus]

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eBay sent me last week a 10% bonus to be used on any purchase up to $1,000 for being a good customer and I used it to buy some Michael Jordan shoes.

Compared to paying an auction house 10% to 20% of the final hammer price, I still think eBay has its niche. Yes, it got a little more expensive but they have had many more 10 cent and 20 cent listing promotions in the past 6 weeks and hopefully they will continue that.

Hopefully they will rethink the buyer feedback mistake, but otherwise I am extremely happy to do business there.

Just my 2 cents!

Andrew