Question on new classified

[ChrisCavalier]

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Dealers often say that Game Used Universe overlooks when its own senior members sell questionable items.

Leslie,

What the heck are you talking about? We are the only company I know of that allows potential buyers to publicly ask questions about items they are interested in and we allow anyone from the collective community with substantiated information to respond so collectors can know everything they want to know before buying an item. The way our system is set up, there is no way we can "overlook questionable items". In fact, it is likely the most accountable system in the hobby and one that protects collectors unlike any other. Your comment is simply not true.

To be very honest, it seems your only purpose in coming here to the site is to try to discredit us for whatever reason. However, there are at least two problems with what you are doing. They include:

1) The information you are posting is incorrect. For example, I am personally at the grass roots and I have heard more times then you can imagine how collectors value what we are doing and trust us as much, if not more, than just about any entity in the hobby. The FBI even commended us for the way we are running our business and said they use this site to help them get information about the hobby. Your comments to try to discredit us are simply not true and unfounded.

2) I have spoken with quite a few very knowledgeable collectors (including quite a few at the National) who told me they love the site and read the forum but will not post because they don't want to have to debate with negative posters like you. Personally, I have relationships with these collectors and can ask them for information whenever I need it. The problem is the constant negativity from people like you is preventing knowledgeable people from posting and depriving the other members of the forum the knowledge other collectors would be willing to share otherwise.

If you don't like us or the forum then please feel free to go elsewhere. Besides the fact that your posts are constantly pushing the forum rules regarding personal attacks and baiting, you are actually a factor in preventing other forum members from benefiting from even more potential knowledge being shared here. If you want to help the others here, either start trying to share useful information that benefits the community or please find another place to complain.

On a separate note, for those wanting to know why the collector to collector forum is set up as it is, here is a post explaining it for you:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showpost.php?p=93867&postcount=1

[both-teams-played-hard]

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I just do not understand how the listings will be policed for dealer and non-dealer activities and why it should matter if honest people are using this group.

OK...I agree with Joel. Yeah, I said it. I'm not afraid to admit it.

As for Frik..DUUUUDE! You are a Game Used Forum Legend! You're right up there with Rocco, James Rast and that guy who called himself Pujols, then changed his name to young gameused collector, then ISU fan, then was banned, then called out this forum and its moderators on eBay in a Pujols jersey auction. On one of your latest posts, I chose to take the high road and offer you some words of encouragement. Slow down homes! You're about to crash and burn! I'm not trying to clown you, I think you're a good guy with some issues. As Eric Burdon and War said: "Why Can't We Be Friends?" I know, I know you're against war, but that's just the name of the band. If I see a post that deserves 5 replys and it has 27....I think to myself, "oh heck, what has Frik done now?"

[chakes89]

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The GUU collecting community also wants you to stop your bitching.

Chris Cavelier & Co pay the bills. They can do whatever they want. End of story.

I second this statement

[trsent]

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You are giving a small portion of what a group that has voiced their opinion want only with regards to the "For Sale" section.

I thought you were going to give a broader insight into what the GUU collecting community wants.

GUF is so much more than the "For Sale".

As a dealer, I am prohibited from listing on the "For Sale". I understand that Chris wants the "For Sale" to be for Collector to Collector not Dealer to Collector. Its his site.

I do not understand the dealer terminology not being allowed to list items in this new forum. I already see a dealer selling in this group and I do not know when the powers will remove their listing as the promised they would when a dealer posts in this forum.

Then again, don't some dealers have items in their personal collection they may wish to sell?

This was a bad decision in my opinion. Since there is already at least one dealer posting in this section, when will something be done or will this policy not be enforced?

I just do not understand how the listings will be policed for dealer and non-dealer activities and why it should matter if honest people are using this group.

[Vintagedeputy]

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You need only look through past threads. I cannot name names or give proof, because I would be violating confidence.

[frikativ54]

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You need only look through past threads. I cannot name names or give proof, because I would be violating confidence.

And for the dealer whose name has never come up, he should count himself lucky. Because I would be violating confidence as well if I name names.

[frikativ54]

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Please identify the shady dealers and provide proof of their shady dealings. If you can provide this, perhaps the GU community here will ask for their removal. Dont hesitate, you opened the door, name the names.

You need only look through past threads. I cannot name names or give proof, because I would be violating confidence.

[Vintagedeputy]

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it is fast becoming a clique of guys who like to make jokes at the expense of certain authenticators, while giving free passes to some of the shady dealers with "senior member" status on the Game Used Forums.

Please identify the shady dealers and provide proof of their shady dealings. If you can provide this, perhaps the GU community here will ask for their removal. Dont hesitate, you opened the door, name the names.

[frikativ54]

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So because no one has caught him today, that gives him a clean slate? Please.

That's not what I'm saying at all; Lou Lampson has a track-record of being unscrupulous in his authentication of game-used items. The point is that this forum was formed for the education of the game-used community. However, it is fast becoming a clique of guys who like to make jokes at the expense of certain authenticators, while giving free passes to some of the shady dealers with "senior member" status on the Game Used Forums.

[Vintagedeputy]

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I said "recent" information. From what I've read on here, there is enough information to make a judgment that Lampson has certified many questionable items. The problem is that most of this information is months old. The amount of Lampson jokes far outnumber the many authentication mistakes he has made. And I don't think they are beneficial to the hobby. That's all I said.

So because no one has caught him today, that gives him a clean slate? Please.

[frikativ54]

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ok, inquiring minds want to know...how is the weather on the planet you are from?

As I peer out over the Seattle sunset, I take in the beauty of the scenery. I am from planet Earth.

What GUF are YOU reading for you to say that there isnt enough information about Lou certifying bad items?

I said "recent" information. From what I've read on here, there is enough information to make a judgment that Lampson has certified many questionable items. The problem is that most of this information is months old. The amount of Lampson jokes far outnumber the many authentication mistakes he has made. And I don't think they are beneficial to the hobby. That's all I said.

[Vintagedeputy]

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For example, people make continuous jokes about Lou Lampson, and there hasn't been enough credible information about him lately to implicate him in certifying bad items.

ok, inquiring minds want to know...how is the weather on the planet you are from?

What GUF are YOU reading for you to say that there isnt enough information about Lou certifying bad items?

[frikativ54]

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It seems to me that Roger asked the administrators to please explain the reasoning behind the $500 limit. Let's let them handle this one. Please don't let Frik's comments bait everyone into another never-ending thread.

I have given the OP a sufficient answer. Here are the three reasons for the new "Collector to Collector Classifieds" forum's $500 limit:

1) Liability - They do not want to be held responsible for fake items.

2) Reputation - They do not want fake big ticket items to tarnish their "good name".

3) Money - They are interested in lining their own pockets with the money that is the fruit of auction-style listings

I don't know how I can spell out their intent any clearer than this.

[Dewey2007]

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Could the administrators please explain the thinking behind the $500.00 limit on the items posted in the for sale section? I personally was disappointed to see this.

Roger

It seems to me that Roger asked the administrators to please explain the reasoning behind the $500 limit. Let's let them handle this one. Please don't let Frik's comments bait everyone into another never-ending thread.

[frikativ54]

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Frk, WHERE exactly does GUU NOT have a good name? Everyone I've ever met at shows, email discussions, etc. have nothing but praise for this board and the information it passes on and the fraud it exposes. I would think the only people that wouldn't think highly of GUU would be the Grey Flannels, Heritages, AMI's and Lou Lampsons of the world (is that your circle of friends?).

Dealers often say that Game Used Universe overlooks when its own senior members sell questionable items. Plus, there is a lot of complaining about a few "suspect" dealers, without a whole lot of substance to back it up. For example, people make continuous jokes about Lou Lampson, and there hasn't been enough credible information about him lately to implicate him in certifying bad items. And it's not just one person in the hobby; a number of people don't think highly of Game Used Universe. I would agree that there is good information on here, but there is also a lot of mocking behavior that doesn't benefit the hobby. BTW - I don't know anyone from the aforementioned companies.