Joba Imposter?

[Vintagedeputy]

Re: Joba Imposter?

That's exactly what happens, everywhere, every day. If traffic is flowing at a safe and prudent speed, the cop who intervenes to start writing folks up is either bored or badge heavy.

Its not up to the traffic to decide what is a safe and prudent speed. Its up to the legislators to decide that and the police to enforce it.

When those things happen, by all means, call the police. When somebody snitches a brownie, deal with it appropriately. It's apples and oranges.

Far from apples and oranges - more like the apple seed that grows into the apple tree, the bad apple tree.

Crush the seed, and no more trees with bad apples.

[jppopma]

Re: Joba Imposter?

Woo hoo, a police arguement. One thing I know even more about than jerseys.

Speeding; There is an acceptable range that will create a safe and fluid flow of traffic. This is usually from 5 under the speed limit to about 8 or so above the speed limit. This will allow for variences of speedometers which are not all calibrated the same, driver fluctuations, and proper spacing of vehicles. Most roads are designed for speeds greater than the posted limit, likely for the variences above. There has been a trend in recent year to reevaluate speed limits to put them more in line with the flow of traffic. That is not meaning that we are giving in to whoever wants to break the law, but more of an effort to keep a majority of the drivers at roughly the same speed. Studies have shown that increasing the speed limit does not necessary cause the faster drivers to go faster, but does bring the median speed up and closes the gap between speeds.

Brownies; I have no problem with people chosing to remedy issues without criminal charges. From the schools doing things "in house" to a neighbor making a kid work it off a punishment, if the lesson is learned this way I am all for it. Yes the courts are very overworked and often the case will end up with not much more of a penalty anyway.

Recidivism is a major point when addressing these issues. While some can say that swift and severe punishment is the way to prevent future crime, there are other factors to consider. One important issue to consider is that of labelling. Everyone takes a certain pride in who they are and will work hard to maintain a certain image of themselves. If you take that way over a minor offense and label a young child as a thief over a $1 brownie, are you really doing them a favor. If their self worth is reduced to being labelled as a thief, what will prevent them from doing it again -- hell, thats what they are and that's all that is expected of them. While people can live up to their potential, they can also live down to their expectations as well.


I do not mean any of this to agree or disagree with anyone. Both Vintage and Godwulf have valid points...and I'm sure they will not agree. Hopefully this will help both to see some of the deeper issues. Take care.