Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

[frikativ54]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Sorry, got my states mixed up. Might be the massive headache I have. Instead of the major news headline being "Arod admits using Steroids," the headline should read "Leslie feels cheated and FORCED to Buy Jersey."


I meant to say

Now, you are mocking me. Chris - you and A-Rod have something in common. Both of you lied when there was something in it for you. I just received another email about your business practices, and another person is disgusted but won't say anything on the forum. You get your money in life from cheating and indimidating people.

[mbrieve]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Having read both threads pertaining to the Chris Boyd - Les Zukor dealings, it seems pretty clear that someone has a bit of buyer's remorse.

I think one thing that a lot of people are missing is that every game used item is unique and special, therefore it is not always easy to determine fair market value.

Also, sports memorabilia is an extremely volatile market. How many people do you think bought an Alex Rodriguez item one week ago and regret it a little bit now?

[bigtime59]

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A TRUE indication of provenance will enhance fair market value which is why items on MLB Auctions and NFL Auctions appear to sell for large premiums.

Not everyone will disclose their true sources for an honest provenance and my favorite blanket statement is 99% of our items come direct from the player----if you hear that----think twice.

Well, and also because it's frickin' amateur hour over at MLB.com. That's why I hate charity auctions: things wind up going for far more than they're worth (or far more than I can afford, which is the same thing to me!).

Mark
bigtime39@aol.com

[Vintagedeputy]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Do I need Jim Pankovits to come on here and tell you that he gave Chris Boyd a bat over the dugout in 1987?

Jim Pankovits lives nearby me. I'm sure that if I asked him, he'd clear all this up.....

Leslie, whatever the issue is between you two, should remain between you two. You OBVIOUSLY didnt do your research and paid more for something than just about anyone here would have. I dont know Chris, but as a fellow business owner, kudos to him for turning a profit. If he can get a tremendous price for an item and you dont question it or refuse the item at the price stipulated, then quite honestly that's your fault for not doing your homework. You should research dealers first and have some idea what you're buying and whether its a "fair market price".

You seem to have this thing where you come on here whining about something every few weeks. I collect NY Giants stuff and they tanked in the playoffs. I collect Washington Nationals stuff and they cant even play .500 ball. I've got lots of reasons to complain about the stuff I bought but I dont because I'm happy with my collection.

Please, for the sanity of everyone here, give it a rest.

[eGameUsed]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Sorry, got my states mixed up. Might be the massive headache I have. Instead of the major news headline being "Arod admits using Steroids," the headline should read "Leslie feels cheated and FORCED to Buy Jersey."


I meant to say

Leslie,

I don't need the collector in CO to vouch for it. I will vouch for it. Your jersey is not from a friend in California. You do in fact have a jersey from someone in COLORADO. Strange how all of a sudden you care more about what state the jersey is from over the fact you have a Bagwell game worn jersey.

[eGameUsed]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

For the 3rd, and hopefully final thread..... You guys need to get yourselves a room.

Nate,

Thanks for helping ease my headache by making me want to vomit!

[eGameUsed]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

So - make this clear to me, how is this jersey from someone in California? The jersey is from someone in Colorado. You told me it was from a friened of Jeff's in California so you could get more dinero from me. How am I confused?

Damn, you are confusing me. Let me make clear since I mixed my states - You have jersey from person in Colorado. You do NOT have jersey from person in California. How does a state the jersey passed through have any relevance to the jersey. You have a game used Bagwell jersey from an Astros clubhouse sourse. End of story.

[ndevlin]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

For the 3rd, and hopefully final thread..... You guys need to get yourselves a room.

[frikativ54]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Leslie,

Sounds like we are on the same page, you just are confused. I don't need the collector in CO to vouch for it. I will vouch for it. Your jersey is not from a friend in California. You do in fact have a jersey from someone in California. Strange how all of a sudden you care more about what state the jersey is from over the fact you have a Bagwell game worn jersey.

So - make this clear to me, how is this jersey from someone in California? The jersey is from someone in Colorado. You told me it was from a friened of Jeff's in California so you could get more dinero from me. How am I confused?

[frikativ54]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

The cleats were the straw that broke the camel's back. It's not just about the cleats. It's about all the transactions that led up to it. And your telling me that you were buying something and asking if I wanted it, and then never selling it to me. You have done this more than once, Chris.

[eGameUsed]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Leslie,

Sounds like we are on the same page, you just are confused. I don't need the collector in CO to vouch for it. I will vouch for it. Your jersey is not from a friend in California. You do in fact have a jersey from someone in California. Strange how all of a sudden you care more about what state the jersey is from over the fact you have a Bagwell game worn jersey.

Yes, I am 30. I have been dealing in Astros game used since I was 8. A player gave me a bat in 1987, and since then I have done anything possible to obtain bats. I used to buy game used Astros bats from a man in a Houston flee market for $10-$25 each. Yes, I mowed grass to buy bats. By the age of 11, I had over 125 bats. Do I need my Dad to come on here and vouch for me and how he used to take me to the guys apartment and flee market on Saturday's to buy bats? Do I need Jim Pankovits to come on here and tell you that he gave Chris Boyd a bat over the dugout in 1987? Yes, I formed Houston Sports Investments in the late 1990s and started as a business in 2004. You have something to say about every don't you?

[frikativ54]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Moderators,

I ask you lock this thread. It serves ZERO benefit to this board and I feel it was started to bait me into this online, yet personal battle. I do not want to be harassed any longer by Ms. Zukor.

Thanks,

You told me my jersey came from a friend of Jeff's in California. I bought it because of that provenance. You told me this after I chose which jersey I wanted. You are not telling me the truth.

I am not harassing you. I was not the one who laughed in your face on a phone call and was really rude to you. I had said before that that I wanted no contact from you, unless it was to contact me for a refund.

You didn't respect that. I have proof from the guy in Colorado, who will also vouch for me about your business practices. You are dishonest in your dealings, and I don't want to deal with you. I am just warning your collectors.

You said people have dealt with you for 22 years. You are only 30, Chris. Just like the phony "specializing...since 1987" claim on your website. You have only been in business since 2004. I have the letters from people who won't do business with you any more to prove your mendacity.

[Rob L]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

This all comes down to research. Les, it sounds like you got desperate for these items and willingly bought these items for a price that you deemed fair (otherwise you wouldn't have bought it). Many of us have been burned (I've got a great Ruth autograph I'll dump for cheap). Definitely a live and learn issue. Btw, I looked at Chris' website and most of the pricing seems reasonable.

[eGameUsed]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Moderators,

I ask you lock this thread. It serves ZERO benefit to this board and I feel it was started to bait me into this online, yet personal battle. I do not want to be harassed any longer by Ms. Zukor.

Thanks,

[eGameUsed]

Re: Chris Boyd's Business Practices - Part Deux

Refund me in full. Your stories keep changing... that's all I am asking. You told me it was fair market value.

Leslie,

There is no such thing as fair market value; a game used item is only worth what someone is willing to pay. My story has not changed a single bit. You are just very confused. It is clear as day you have the jersey from Colorado, you say you proved that yourself.

If the value is based on the source, you should have though about that before you decided to continually trash me on this board. People buy Astros items from me as they trust my opinion and my expertise having dealt with them for 22 years.