OT: Manny Hurt Already???

[Vintagedeputy]

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WHY don't you just take a look at what you just typed (said)....and re-read through this thread.

I think calling a guy a "cancer" because a few of his teammates had differences with his personality and how he expressed himself....is a bit low class.

EVERONE here has most likely been touched by this dreadful disease, either via a family member or close friend. To equate an incorrigible baseball player to a "cancer" is a bit extreme and in extremely bad taste, and should be left to be uttered by a brainless relief pitcher who does a silly little dance on his spare time from throwing.......NOT POSTERS here trying to have "intelligent conversations".

You have the audacity to chastise me after you insult Manny yourself, while maintaining I can't call anyone here "low class" for lowering themselves to the moniker of "cancer" against a baseball player for a "different personality"?

Yeah.....I like to have intelligent conversations too. I just know I won't have any with Boston fans angry at Manny for "quitting" on his team, or Manny haters if that's the subject matter on a thread.

By the way.....I ask you mentioned above......Answer this question....

Would you consider a guy who during July hit .347, with an OPS of 1.060 a guy who quit on his team?

Those are Hall of Fame numbers.

And Manny's numbers last July.

And lighten up......I'm not here to pound on anyone, or insult anyone, or be rude and make enemies. I just find the Manny attacks and comments so ill advised......the guy was your ROCK of GIBRALTER, Boston. Show him a little respect.....

Wow...feel better?

Manny is a cancer. His "its all about me" personality is why they ran him out of Boston.

[suicide_squeeze]

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That's right, SUICIDE_SQUEEZE, read the quotes from Papelbon just 2 days ago referring to Ramirez as a CANCER on the team. You're entitled to your opinions, misguided as I personally think they are, and I've been called much worse than a girl or low-class. You really have to come up with something better than that. If Papelbon is lowclass, he's a successful and wealthy one. Go figure.

Manny is a turd.

Oh.....I see.

So now we can equate having class with "success" and having lots of money in one's field??

Yeah, brilliant. I think everyone would agree on that!

Hey Vintagedeputy......when do these "intelligent" conversations start that we posters like to have here???

eisen....man, if you can't take a little "ribbing" (the attackers I refer to as girls) then maybe you should look into the clear or the cream......'cause your skins a bit thin friend. RELAX! It was all in good fun.

But I stand by my feelings on the "cancer" word.

Now "turd"......that's much more fitting of Manny. I'll back that one up.

[Vintagedeputy]

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How about lesion, tooth decay, open festuring puss filled sore? They all describe Manny when his "me first" attitude strikes.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Wow...feel better?

Manny is a cancer. His "its all about me" personality is why they ran him out of Boston.

Nothing personal......but I never felt bad.

Hey, you know, if you really must press an issue of using a word that holds a tremendous amount of painful connotation, then do as you will.

It's brutal, and out of context.

I would expect that from a loser like Papelbon....he's an idiot jock like most of them are. Reminds me of a John Rocker type.....NO CLASS. Stupid. He is also for whatever reason trying to gain status with some of his other idiot teammates (mind you I refer to SOME of them as idiots, not all of them).

Boston will not win a World Series with these players minus Manny. Manny was unreplaceable for the Red Sox, and the same goes for the Dodgers.

Hate him....it's o.k. with me, him, and anyone else that cares or doesn't.

Just use a bit of decency when choosing a name to describe your loathsomeness for the guy.

And my opinion is......They didn't run him out of town. He had had enough, and pressed the issue.

Now, instead of both being happy.....since your argument is that NO ONE wanted him around in Boston........Why is it that the Boston fans are so angry, full of hate, resentful, bitter, and just can't stay off Manny's back? Why is it the Dodger fans are as happy as we've been since.......last August?

Hmmmmmm...........

[Vintagedeputy]

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Why is it that the Boston fans are so angry, full of hate, resentful, bitter, and just can't stay off Manny's back? Why is it the Dodger fans are as happy as we've been since.......last August?

Hmmmmmm...........

Cant answer that for ya. I hate the Red Sox. I'm a born and raised Yankee fan. I was happy to see Manny's demise in Beanville. I just wish that no other team would have to suffer with him.

[nationals2k9]

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So if Manny out for up to a week protecting his hammy is cancer... that must mean Pedroia's injury is like the black plague? Man, they paid him $51MM for 7 years and he's missing more time than Manny flying home early from the WBC!!! He may not play again til next week or two weeks from now!!! What in God's name are we all going to do if these guys can't take hacks for all of the 6-week exhibition season???

[eisenreich8]

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Suicide, I don't take offense, really! Cancer is a strong word, I agree. My mother died of cancer, as did my aunt, as did my best friend at 50. I tread lightly around the memory of what pain that brought. I believe the word has a meaning here derivative of the nature of Ramirez' transgressions involving his teammates, ie a festering presence that, left untreated and intact, could potentially overwhelm the host. So, it needed to be excised. This, to me, pretty much jibes with what transpired in Boston.

I do not presume to speak for all Boston fans, but I can confidently state that, in my experience as a lifelong fan (I'm 49) and based on many conversations with, postings in the Boston papers by, and columns written by, fans and the media, this individual was one of the most tradition-wrecking players to ever wear the uni. Dwight Evans wore #24 for the Sox from 1972-1990 and to this day, thousands of true Sox fans rue the day that the number 24 was ever issued to the likes of Ramirez. Evans never hit like Ramirez, but he did earn 8 gold gloves and he did walk the walk. Ramirez can HIT LIKE NO ONE ELSE, but he cannot run, he cannot field, he does not play hurt (even imaginarily hurt), he cannot/will not listen to his coaches and management, cannot and will not recognize charitable organizations or the average fan, physically assaulted an elderly Sox employee, I could go on and on......and he gleefully laughs his way along with brainless abandon. I fail to recognize why a player with just ONE tangible skill can reap the financial rewards and adulation of so many when he is bereft of so many other important skills and attributes.

I in no way aim to disparage anyone's chosen hero in the best game in sports. If you like Ramirez, I salute you and wish you happy sailing. It doesn't affect my life who roots for him or how he does or doesn't for LA. Please just trust the certainty that Boston, for the overwhelming most part, does not miss him and it is not sour grapes or a feeling of being jilted, so to speak. If he could not hit a ball he would be nailing pallets together in a warehouse somewhere, and I hope I am not offending anyone by saying that, as that is part of my job. I can't hit a baseball.

Suicide Squeeze, peace and keep loving the game.

[eisenreich8]

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FWIW, I can't stand Papelbon either.......

[gamer35]

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Suicide, I don't take offense, really! Cancer is a strong word, I agree. My mother died of cancer, as did my aunt, as did my best friend at 50. I tread lightly around the memory of what pain that brought. I believe the word has a meaning here derivative of the nature of Ramirez' transgressions involving his teammates, ie a festering presence that, left untreated and intact, could potentially overwhelm the host. So, it needed to be excised. This, to me, pretty much jibes with what transpired in Boston.

I do not presume to speak for all Boston fans, but I can confidently state that, in my experience as a lifelong fan (I'm 49) and based on many conversations with, postings in the Boston papers by, and columns written by, fans and the media, this individual was one of the most tradition-wrecking players to ever wear the uni. Dwight Evans wore #24 for the Sox from 1972-1990 and to this day, thousands of true Sox fans rue the day that the number 24 was ever issued to the likes of Ramirez. Evans never hit like Ramirez, but he did earn 8 gold gloves and he did walk the walk. Ramirez can HIT LIKE NO ONE ELSE, but he cannot run, he cannot field, he does not play hurt (even imaginarily hurt), he cannot/will not listen to his coaches and management, cannot and will not recognize charitable organizations or the average fan, physically assaulted an elderly Sox employee, I could go on and on......and he gleefully laughs his way along with brainless abandon. I fail to recognize why a player with just ONE tangible skill can reap the financial rewards and adulation of so many when he is bereft of so many other important skills and attributes.

I in no way aim to disparage anyone's chosen hero in the best game in sports. If you like Ramirez, I salute you and wish you happy sailing. It doesn't affect my life who roots for him or how he does or doesn't for LA. Please just trust the certainty that Boston, for the overwhelming most part, does not miss him and it is not sour grapes or a feeling of being jilted, so to speak. If he could not hit a ball he would be nailing pallets together in a warehouse somewhere, and I hope I am not offending anyone by saying that, as that is part of my job. I can't hit a baseball.

Suicide Squeeze, peace and keep loving the game.

The funny thing is that if he is not missed, why do you and the remainder of Sox fans keep harping on him? He dominates the Boston papers because Boston fans are a bunch of scorned lovers and are looking for reasons to hate him.

And that "elderly" 64 year old man? If you were a real Sox fan, you would know that this man is a former cop and can more than hold his own. Granted, it was not right to push this "elderly" man, but there are two sides to every story.

And for the Bonds fan that posted in this thread, what team is Barry Lamar on?

[gamer35]

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Manny is already showing this was a bad investment... The Dodgers will realize soon enough just how bad!

And then there is Adam Dunn whom they passed over, hitting 2 HRS so far for USA...

And with all due respect, are you kidding me? You are using the first two weeks of SPRING TRAINING as a barometer as to how a FA signing turned out to be? How do Dunn's 2 HR in a meaningless tournament have any relevance?

It is just funny how people just love to hate...

[gameused]

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There is a reason why every team passed on him!

I try to stay out of these worthless discussions, that are a complete waste of my time and energy.

Anyway, I had to laugh when I saw Bondsgloves post: "There is a reason why every team passed on him!"

At least one team, the Dodgers were interested in Manny, unlike your man Barry Bonds that was passed on by every single MLB team for the past two seasons, and by the way, Manny is going to the hall of fame as one of the greatest right handed hitters in the game ever and the man is absolutely money in the playoffs and World Series and remember he did not take performance enhancing drugs like your man Barry Bonds did!

Bobby

[eisenreich8]

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The funny thing is that if he is not missed, why do you and the remainder of Sox fans keep harping on him? He dominates the Boston papers because Boston fans are a bunch of scorned lovers and are looking for reasons to hate him.

And that "elderly" 64 year old man? If you were a real Sox fan, you would know that this man is a former cop and can more than hold his own. Granted, it was not right to push this "elderly" man, but there are two sides to every story.

And for the Bonds fan that posted in this thread, what team is Barry Lamar on?

If you were a real Sox fan.......

Funny how your strongest weapon is always the chaep swipe. That's the second reference in the past week of "if you were a real Sox fan"...

I hereby resolve to brush up on my Real Sox Fandom so I don't incur the wrath of the freakin' baseball Oracle. Do you have any friends?

[eisenreich8]

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The funny thing is that if he is not missed, why do you and the remainder of Sox fans keep harping on him? He dominates the Boston papers because Boston fans are a bunch of scorned lovers and are looking for reasons to hate him.

And that "elderly" 64 year old man? If you were a real Sox fan, you would know that this man is a former cop and can more than hold his own. Granted, it was not right to push this "elderly" man, but there are two sides to every story.

And for the Bonds fan that posted in this thread, what team is Barry Lamar on?

"This man is a former cop and can more than hold his own".......

If you were a 64 year old man, ANY 64 year old man, Marine, cop, ex-pro-wrestler, you ain't "holding your own" against Ramirez. The Boston papers described him as elderly. When's the last time you saw the traveling secretary in person? Ramirez lunged at him, unexpectedly, and threw him to the ground.

You MUST be from New York.

[Bondsgloves]

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I try to stay out of these worthless discussions, that are a complete waste of my time and energy.

Anyway, I had to laugh when I saw Bondsgloves post: "There is a reason why every team passed on him!"

At least one team, the Dodgers were interested in Manny, unlike your man Barry Bonds that was passed on by every single MLB team for the past two seasons, and by the way, Manny is going to the hall of fame as one of the greatest right handed hitters in the game ever and the man is absolutely money in the playoffs and World Series and remember he did not take performance enhancing drugs like your man Barry Bonds did!

Bobby

Bobby,

Comparing Bonds to Manny is not even close. Barry is older and was at the tail end of his career. Manny quit on his team, pushed an elderly Man down, is a one dimensional player. Manny couldn't carry Barry' jock at any time in his career. How many Gold Gloves, MVP's, Stolen Bases, Walks, and the list goes on. If you believe Manny has not taken any performance enhancings drugs, its just a matter of time until the truth comes out. Manny is one dimensional and has always been one dimensional.

[eisenreich8]

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Bobby,

Comparing Bonds to Manny is not even close. Barry is older and was at the tail end of his career. Manny quit on his team, pushed an elderly Man down, is a one dimensional player. Manny couldn't carry Barry' jock at any time in his career. How many Gold Gloves, MVP's, Stolen Bases, Walks, and the list goes on. If you believe Manny has not taken any performance enhancings drugs, its just a matter of time until the truth comes out. Manny is one dimensional and has always been one dimensional.

See post #22. But watch the "elderly" reference. There's a hint of sensitivity in the air. I agree with your post on all counts though. I believe I'll drift along though as there is a preponderance of members being set in their ways, which is fine and dandy.