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  • suicide_squeeze
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1442

    #31
    Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

    Tony,

    You know, I hear you, and I think it's honorable that you and others feel he (Vick) has done his time for the crime, and that he should be left to show us he is now a good man.


    But I just have to respectably disagree.

    The crimes he performed and masterminded were so sick in nature. This guy has a seriously warped character. He will not change, no matter what he does publicly. It will all be a farce.

    I want to put this question out to all of you football fans.....

    If you went on a job interview, and the background search done by the firm considering you for a position found you did two years serious time for committing a heinous felony.........what do you think your chances would be of getting hired?

    Zero. Zilch. Nada. Furget-abowd-dit.

    Are we as sports fans so intrenched in our desire for the dramatic, that we would just forget the cruel murderous wretched things this guy did just so we can see him in a football uniform again? Worse yet, are we so inclined to see the drama unfold as a society that we welcome this opportunity so we can all watch?

    He was a professional football player, a glamorized star who made millions from endorsements from some of the most recognized names in the retail world. And what did he do with his fame and good fortune? He stuck his middle finger in everyones faces while he murdered poor defenseless animals who were "sub-par" in the hellish world he bought, created, and financed for them.

    If he were a foreign National who came to our country and did this, you guys would all be screaming for his deportation.

    Vick deserves nothing. I think the Eagles organization is a disgrace. I can't imagine a more destructive move for their own franchise.

    I guess we'll just all see how it plays out. And that's the sickest part of all of this. I think the Eagles are just doing this to "cash in" on all of the drama and attention Vick will bring to the team.

    I hope the Eagles implode with failure. And although I didn't say so earlier, I think cohibasmoker is a class act through and through as a human being for turning in his resignation. I don't even (honestly) know if I would have been able to do the same thing.

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    • NYCrulesU
      Banned
      • Jul 2009
      • 232

      #32
      Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

      Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
      Tony,

      You know, I hear you, and I think it's honorable that you and others feel he (Vick) has done his time for the crime, and that he should be left to show us he is now a good man.


      But I just have to respectably disagree.

      The crimes he performed and masterminded were so sick in nature. This guy has a seriously warped character. He will not change, no matter what he does publicly. It will all be a farce.

      I want to put this question out to all of you football fans.....

      If you went on a job interview, and the background search done by the firm considering you for a position found you did two years serious time for committing a heinous felony.........what do you think your chances would be of getting hired?

      Zero. Zilch. Nada. Furget-abowd-dit.

      Are we as sports fans so intrenched in our desire for the dramatic, that we would just forget the cruel murderous wretched things this guy did just so we can see him in a football uniform again? Worse yet, are we so inclined to see the drama unfold as a society that we welcome this opportunity so we can all watch?

      He was a professional football player, a glamorized star who made millions from endorsements from some of the most recognized names in the retail world. And what did he do with his fame and good fortune? He stuck his middle finger in everyones faces while he murdered poor defenseless animals who were "sub-par" in the hellish world he bought, created, and financed for them.

      If he were a foreign National who came to our country and did this, you guys would all be screaming for his deportation.

      Vick deserves nothing. I think the Eagles organization is a disgrace. I can't imagine a more destructive move for their own franchise.

      I guess we'll just all see how it plays out. And that's the sickest part of all of this. I think the Eagles are just doing this to "cash in" on all of the drama and attention Vick will bring to the team.

      I hope the Eagles implode with failure. And although I didn't say so earlier, I think cohibasmoker is a class act through and through as a human being for turning in his resignation. I don't even (honestly) know if I would have been able to do the same thing.

      Bravo sir. I absolutely agree with what you said and fee the same exact way.

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      • dirtyla2000
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 269

        #33
        Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

        OK,ALL JOKES AND INSULTS ASIDE,THE CULTURE OF DOG FIGHTING HAS BEEN GOING ON IN YOUR COUNTRY FOR A LONG LONG TIME! IS IT RIGHT,OBVIOUSLY NOT! IF HE COULD BRING LIGHT TO A TOPIC YOU OBVIOUSLY FIND DEAR TO YOU,HE IS BETTER SERVED IN THE SPOTLIGHT WHERE HE COULD HELP STOP CRAP LIKE THAT.I AGREE IF HE IS CAUGHT WITH EVEN AN OUNCE OF MARIJUANA ON HIM,HE SHOULD BE DONE FOR GOOD! STOP BASHING THE EAGLES,ITS LUDICROUS TO BELIEVE THIS IS A PUBLICITY STUNT.THEY ARE IN THE TOP 5 WHEN IT COMES TO NFL FRANCHISES! I WISH HIM WELL,AND I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF THE U.S WISH HIM WELL,YOU GUYS WANT TO FORGIVE AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ALSO DONT WANT TO FORGET! THE EAGLES WILL WIN THE NFC WITH OR WITHOUT VICK! THANKYOU
        If you went on a job interview, and the background search done by the firm considering you for a position found you did two years serious time for committing a heinous felony.........what do you think your chances would be of getting hired?

        Zero. Zilch. Nada. Furget-abowd-dit.

        Are we as sports fans so intrenched in our desire for the dramatic, that we would just forget the cruel murderous wretched things this guy did just so we can see him in a football uniform again? Worse yet, are we so inclined to see the drama unfold as a society that we welcome this opportunity so we can all watch?

        He was a professional football player, a glamorized star who made millions from endorsements from some of the most recognized names in the retail world. And what did he do with his fame and good fortune? He stuck his middle finger in everyones faces while he murdered poor defenseless animals who were "sub-par" in the hellish world he bought, created, and financed for them.

        If he were a foreign National who came to our country and did this, you guys would all be screaming for his deportation.

        Vick deserves nothing. I think the Eagles organization is a disgrace. I can't imagine a more destructive move for their own franchise.

        I guess we'll just all see how it plays out. And that's the sickest part of all of this. I think the Eagles are just doing this to "cash in" on all of the drama and attention Vick will bring to the team.

        I hope the Eagles implode with failure. And although I didn't say so earlier, I think cohibasmoker is a class act through and through as a human being for turning in his resignation. I don't even (honestly) know if I would have been able to do the same thing.[/quote]

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        • nyjetsfan14
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 414

          #34
          Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

          Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
          This guy has a seriously warped character. He will not change, no matter what he does publicly. It will all be a farce.
          It isn't you who decides who can and cannot change...who can or cannot redeem themselves...who can or cannot mature, learn, and improve....who can or cannot be saved. I think your post is way above your paygrade...

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          • chakes89
            Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 1706

            #35
            Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

            So does this mean I can wear my Michael Vick Falcons jersey again?

            It's considered a throwback now right?

            I collect Jay Bruce and Cincinnati Reds Minor League stuff


            My email address: hakes89@gmail.com

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            • 3arod13
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 3093

              #36
              Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

              Put yourself in Vicks shoes. I guarantee if you were being treated the same, you'd be crying for a second chance.

              Always much easier to judge and be so hard when it's someone else.
              Regards, Tony

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              ~I'm sorry, I can't hear you....my World Series Ring is making too much NOISE! - Alex Rodriguez~

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              • sammy
                Banned
                • Nov 2005
                • 732

                #37
                Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

                Matthew 7

                Do Not Judge
                "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
                Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
                "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

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                • otismalibu
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1650

                  #38
                  Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

                  Sammy,

                  Would you sign my copy of Religulous?
                  Greg
                  DrJStuff.com

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                  • NYCrulesU
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 232

                    #39
                    Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

                    It's my opinion that religion and politics have no place on sports cards and sports memorabilia boards. And yes, I am religious. It still has no place here. As a matter of fact, on most sites, it's against the TOS.

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                    • MiLe HigH
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 348

                      #40
                      Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

                      Originally posted by NYCrulesU
                      It's my opinion that religion and politics have no place on sports cards and sports memorabilia boards. And yes, I am religious. It still has no place here. As a matter of fact, on most sites, it's against the TOS.
                      I agree ...one place i can go and not hear about religon and or politics.

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                      • both-teams-played-hard
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 2712

                        #41
                        Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

                        Originally posted by 3arod13
                        Put yourself in Vicks shoes.
                        Why? I don't commit crimes.

                        Originally posted by 3arod13
                        I guarantee if you were being treated the same, you'd be crying for a second chance.
                        Who says? You don't know me. I never cry. I'm way too tough and macho.

                        Originally posted by 3arod13
                        Always much easier to judge and be so hard when it's someone else.
                        Yes. It is easy to judge criminals, because I am not a criminal and I do not commit crimes.

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                        • both-teams-played-hard
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2712

                          #42
                          Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

                          Originally posted by sammy
                          Matthew 7

                          Do Not Judge
                          "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
                          Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
                          "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
                          JORDAN 1:23

                          "If God is not a Tar Heel, why is the sky Carolina blue?"

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                          • frikativ54
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3612

                            #43
                            Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

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                            Les Zukor
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                            • sammy
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 732

                              #44
                              Re: VICK Signs with Eagles



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                              If some of you do not like my moral views, then don't post your moralistic views about Mr. Vick.

                              Judge the man on his athletic ability, and leave his morals, and yours, off the board.

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                              • frikativ54
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 3612

                                #45
                                Re: VICK Signs with Eagles

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                                Rather, when we judge a man's character we should be using standards that everyone can agree on, not beliefs based on one person's faith.

                                The topic at hand was Michael Vick. And we have every right to criticize a man that was complicit in drowning and electrocuting a companion animal. Honestly, I don't know of one person's moral code where that behavior can be justified, under any circumstances.

                                In short, this has everything to do with common human decency. And I severely doubt that Michael Vick is anything but a sociopath, someone who thinks that innocent animals are only a means to the end of financial gain.
                                Les Zukor
                                bagwellgameused@gmail.com
                                Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                                http://www.bagwellgameused.com
                                (617) 682-0408

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