Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

[jshortt]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

Had a similar conversation with Jay Bruce about 'his' glove that was offered. He had NO clue about it. He also said he couldn't recall ever ordering any Rawlings gloves with the full opening instead of the single finger, and told me I should stay away from it...thusly, I didn't go in on it.

-Josh

[chakes89]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

13alexrodriguez and BPH just keep cranking out the "Game Issued" gloves

It's starting to be more of a joke than anything

[TAFKADixie]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

I have a buddy who spoke to Tyler Colvin today and he said he has never seen, much less used or been issued a Reebok fielder's glove. I contacted the seller to see what kind of agreement we could reach as I purchased it as "game issued".

[allstarsplus]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

Frik - Thanks!

That is a similar glove to what Ryan Zim uses; however, he has 4 extras sitting on the top of his locker in clear view. So with that code showing July 2009 it makes no sense to me (IMHO) as he would give someone an extra from the top of his locker (I would think) but lets face it, all of his significant stuff is going to Locker Room Memorabilia so I have serious doubts.

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/89780083/Getty-Images-Sport

The 2 big differences are the dark brown laces and the brown leather finger pad which isn't on his game glove.

You be the judge. I don't don't see the brown gel pad under his finger which would almost be stitched to within an inch or so from that RAWLINGS embroidery.

[allstarsplus]

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But there's also the ethical issue: Would you buy a glove that possibly was created under suspicious circumstances and was made after some of the players had long since had their Rawlings contracts expired? I find it safe to speculate that something was amiss here, and that I wouldn't want to be any part of something crooked.

Personally speaking, I find the whole situation troubling, and the lack of answers equally bothersome. Before I would ever purchase something like this, I would contact Rawlings and find out if they were authorized by the players to produce these gloves. If so, then we have a different issue. If not, then I would never want to own a glove produced in such circumstances.

I hear what you are saying. First of all, I am not buying or bidding on any of them because of a slew of reasons.

I have my suspicions on them as I stated in my opinion.

I researched that Ryan Zimmerman glove and if the price was right, I would buy it and display it as a game model glove. I know based on a call I made to Rawlings that the particular glove was not ordered by the player. The seller on that glove is calling it a Game Model glove. As Wade pointed out, the same seller sold a Teixeira which was sold more as an unsused game glove instead of as a game model glove and honestly I did no research on that Teixeira.

Calling some of these gloves "Game Issued" is most likely a joke and like you said an ethical issue. Caveat emptor.

[frikativ54]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

All Rawlings gloves too. Imagine that coincidence. But $100 to $250 for these gloves are a great price if you know what you are really buying. Most likely never made it into the player's locker IMHO.

But there's also the ethical issue: Would you buy a glove that possibly was created under suspicious circumstances and was made after some of the players had long since had their Rawlings contracts expired? I find it safe to speculate that something was amiss here, and that I wouldn't want to be any part of something crooked.

Personally speaking, I find the whole situation troubling, and the lack of answers equally bothersome. Before I would ever purchase something like this, I would contact Rawlings and find out if they were authorized by the players to produce these gloves. If so, then we have a different issue. If not, then I would never want to own a glove produced in such circumstances.

[allstarsplus]

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... seem to be almost any collectors dream...except for the fact that multiple issued gloves are hitting the market all at once.

wade

All Rawlings gloves too. Imagine that coincidence. But $100 to $250 for these gloves are a great price if you know what you are really buying. Most likely never made it into the player's locker IMHO.

[WadeInBmore]

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Ball Park Heroes had one similar to the Teixeira for sale not too long ago and it sold as issued for over 500...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360180007703&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182

As a guy who once played with and against Mark, a $100 opening bid for a game issued glove IS quite appealing. However, it does make me wonder where all these issued gloves are coming from? Did they get leaked from Rawlings? The current auction selection AND those found on the dreaded Bay seem to be almost any collectors dream...except for the fact that multiple issued gloves are hitting the market all at once.

wade

[frikativ54]

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Interesting. Another 13 "Game Issued" Rawlings gloves.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auctions.asp?aucsearch=glove+player%2Dissued&AucListType=open&TitleDesc=1&period=&offset=0

The detail on the Pujols and Jeter is amazing. For the die-hard collector for some of these players, if the prices don't go crazy these do make a nice collectible.

The question still is, are these really "game issued" gloves by the definition of game issued?

Here is the link to a picture of the Jeter:

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/pics/51971_04_lg.jpg

These are the exact same gloves as were sold by 13alexrodriguez. Same players, same gloves, same auctions. Again, these never got to the player, so there is no chance that these are any other than "game model" gloves. For die-hard collectors, I would recommend staying away until you see a genuine game-issued glove.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

Interesting. Another 13 "Game Issued" Rawlings gloves.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auctions.asp?aucsearch=glove+player%2Dissued&AucListType=open&TitleDesc=1&period=&offset=0

The detail on the Pujols and Jeter is amazing. For the die-hard collector for some of these players, if the prices don't go crazy these do make a nice collectible.

The question still is, are these really "game issued" gloves by the definition of game issued?

Here is the link to a picture of the Jeter:

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/pics/51971_04_lg.jpg

[sarahsdad]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

American Memorabilia has 8-10 of these same gloves in their current auction. They are contained under the "Game Used" and "Baseball Unsigned" categories. I do not know if they were/are the same ones that were recently posted on Ebay or a different batch.
Sarahsdad

[thomecollector]

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Andrew,
Could you drop me a line? I have a question for you. Thanks,Roger

[allstarsplus]

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Have you tried emailing the seller of the Zimmerman glove and asking him how he obtained it?

Yes, Kim and I emailed back and forth which prompted him to change his description. He didn't tell me how he obtained it but Kim is a very honest guy so I am sure he was not trying to mis-represent anything.

[frikativ54]

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The question is, how does someone get dozens of player model Rawlings gloves when these may not have come directly through a legitimate player order?????

If you ask me, Rawlings should look into this. Something is amiss here, and for the good of collectors, something should be done about this situation.

I called Rawlings today and they were kind enough to take me through Ryan Zimmerman's personal glove order and he didn't order 1 glove with what they call the "gel pad" or I refer to as the finger pad on the top of the glove so how do you explain that the glove got on eBay? Other than the gel pad and color of the laces, the glove itself was the exact model and size that Ryan did personally order and the exact player red script embroidery on the glove too.

That's great that you were able to talk to someone at Rawlings. I wish I had that kind of access to my favorite player's personal glove orders. Have you tried emailing the seller of the Zimmerman glove and asking him how he obtained it?

[NYCrulesU]

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Has anyone contacted the seller directly, perhaps to see if he intends to change the descriptions of his listings?