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  • MLB_Authentic
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 597

    What would you rather have, prices being equal?

    Say you had the choice of these two items for the same price. Which would you choose and why?

    Joe Mauer Autographed MLB Baseball IronClad/MLB Authenticated

    Jason Kubel Game Used 2008 Bat MLB Authenticated and photomatched to at least 1 Homerun.

    Your thoughts?
  • bronx_burner
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 174

    #2
    Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

    Wouldn't even have to think about it. I'd take the bat. In fact I'd take the bat, even even if it cost more than the ball. Joe Mauer will be signing baseballs for the next 50 years. That bat is tied to a specific moment(s) in an actual game. Really no contest in my mind.

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    • Manram
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 1151

      #3
      Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

      Bat for sure. The other is just an auto

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      • legaleagle92481
        Banned
        • Oct 2009
        • 2538

        #4
        Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

        The bat hands down. These days autographs even of a great player like Joe are a dime a dozen any collector can simply go on Ironclads website and order one or go on ebay and find several that originated with Ironclad. An autographed baseball is held by a player for a few seconds and the player has zero personal connection with it it is exactly the same as the other few hundred he signed at that signing. A gamer is an item that was made for that player, that in many cases he taped or added pine tar to himself and that he had in his hand when he made his living at the plate. The bat in question was the object that a player used to hit a home run and you can't top that. Even the greatest power hitter will hit less home runs and hence even if he uses a different bat for each of them will have less homer bats than the amount of baseballs signed at one of several signings a player participates in during a year. It has been estimated that even Babe Ruth who died in 1948 signed over a million autographs imagine how many today's players probably will sign in their lives.

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        • MLB_Authentic
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 597

          #5
          Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

          I agree with most of what you guys are saying. However, Mauer Ironclad Balls are very hard to find now that he is no longer with Ironclad. He recently signed with IMG and it is unclear if he will be signing in the future.

          Thanks for the opinions so far.

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          • joelsabi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2005
            • 3073

            #6
            Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

            Originally posted by MLB_Authentic
            I agree with most of what you guys are saying. However, Mauer Ironclad Balls are very hard to find now that he is no longer with Ironclad. He recently signed with IMG and it is unclear if he will be signing in the future.

            Thanks for the opinions so far.
            i see three Mauer Ironclad balls on ebay. Should not be hard to locate in the future. Unless you favor Mauer in your collection, take the bat instead.
            Regards,
            Joel S.
            joelsabi @ gmail.com
            Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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            • spartakid
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1281

              #7
              Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

              definitely bat
              Ricardo Montoya

              ri.montoya at yahoo dot com

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              • mariner_gamers
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 358

                #8
                Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                Bat
                Davis Emburey
                demburey@netzero.net
                Always looking for late 70's-late 80's Mariners game used bats!

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                • scottanservitz
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 743

                  #9
                  Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                  Bat, no question.

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                  • kylehess10
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 3100

                    #10
                    Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                    How many autographs will Mauer sign in his lifetime?

                    How many photomatched Kubel homerun bats will be used and available on the market?




                    BAT
                    kylehess941@hotmail.com

                    My Game Used Collection:
                    http://www.wix.com/kylehess941/gameused


                    http://www.kylehessphotography.com/

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                    • legaleagle92481
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2538

                      #11
                      Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                      Originally posted by MLB_Authentic
                      I agree with most of what you guys are saying. However, Mauer Ironclad Balls are very hard to find now that he is no longer with Ironclad. He recently signed with IMG and it is unclear if he will be signing in the future.

                      Thanks for the opinions so far.
                      I wouldn't worry about Mauer no longer signing because he signed with IMG. IMG also reps the Mannings and as we all know Peyton and Eli are signing machines.

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                      • xpress34
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2648

                        #12
                        Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                        Originally posted by legaleagle92481
                        It has been estimated that even Babe Ruth who died in 1948 signed over a million autographs
                        Legal -

                        1st, let me say that no, I don't have it in for you (I say that since this will be the 2nd time I have questioned something you wrote)

                        2nd, where did you get that stat? Ruth died at 53 years of age - less the fact he Debuted at 19 years old - so he had 34 years of people wanting his auto.

                        1,000,000 / 34 = 29,411 Autos per YEAR

                        29,411 / 365 = 2,673 Autos per DAY

                        2,673 / 24 = 111 Autos per HOUR

                        Which would mean that from the day he made his debut to the day he died he would have had to sign 1.85 Autos per MINUTE for EVERY single minute (including his playing time, sleeping, etc) to hit the 1,000,000 mark...

                        I only jumped on this because in our society today, 1,000,000 doesn't have the grandeur that t once did and if you do the math on a stat like that, you'll realize it is very likely impossible. Simply to COUNT to 1,000,000 (saying one number per second) without a break would take you almost two straight years (1.9 years).

                        I hope this is taken in the vein it is intended.

                        - Chris

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                        • Rob L
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1237

                          #13
                          Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                          Definitely the bat!!
                          Rob L
                          loefflerrd@cox.net

                          Always On the Look Out for Troy Percival & Randy Johnson Gamers

                          Rob L's Baseball Memorabilia website: GU Troy Percival, GU Randy Johnson, GU Angels, GU Baseball, 19th Century Baseball and Autographs. Also a huge Game Used Resource page and Game Used Collectors Page: www.loefflerrd.webs.com

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                          • Rob L
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1237

                            #14
                            Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                            Originally posted by xpress34
                            Legal -

                            1st, let me say that no, I don't have it in for you (I say that since this will be the 2nd time I have questioned something you wrote)

                            2nd, where did you get that stat? Ruth died at 53 years of age - less the fact he Debuted at 19 years old - so he had 34 years of people wanting his auto.

                            1,000,000 / 34 = 29,411 Autos per YEAR

                            29,411 / 365 = 2,673 Autos per DAY

                            2,673 / 24 = 111 Autos per HOUR

                            Which would mean that from the day he made his debut to the day he died he would have had to sign 1.85 Autos per MINUTE for EVERY single minute (including his playing time, sleeping, etc) to hit the 1,000,000 mark...

                            I only jumped on this because in our society today, 1,000,000 doesn't have the grandeur that t once did and if you do the math on a stat like that, you'll realize it is very likely impossible. Simply to COUNT to 1,000,000 (saying one number per second) without a break would take you almost two straight years (1.9 years).

                            I hope this is taken in the vein it is intended.

                            - Chris
                            True, maybe a million is a bit much, but that number has been floated because he loved to sign autographs. The cool thing about Ruth autographs is that anybody that wants one can pretty much get one (if the price is right) and they will appreciate in value. I just sold a 1934 signed Yankees ball with Ruth on the sweetspot that was heavily toned and the autographs ranked from a 1 to 4 (Ruth 4, Gehrig 2) for $2200 after I had bought it two years ago for $1200. I've been offered upto $2800 for a Ruth signed grocery receipt that I bought for $900 four years ago. Heck with the Mauer, buy a Ruth!!!!
                            Rob L
                            loefflerrd@cox.net

                            Always On the Look Out for Troy Percival & Randy Johnson Gamers

                            Rob L's Baseball Memorabilia website: GU Troy Percival, GU Randy Johnson, GU Angels, GU Baseball, 19th Century Baseball and Autographs. Also a huge Game Used Resource page and Game Used Collectors Page: www.loefflerrd.webs.com

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                            • 10thMan
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 429

                              #15
                              Re: What would you rather have, prices being equal?

                              The BAT, no question. Interested in a favorites players legit Auto? like we say around here, do your Homework. Study his signature, learn what to look for as far as signing traits, or characteristics. Study the way they start & end each letter, the way (or direction) "loops" are made on certain letters, even the size of certain letters. I have a Mcgwire signed `87 Donruss Rookie card with his full name signed "Mark David Mcgwire" Totally cool & I believe very rare.

                              I have quite a few photos of Bats, signatures of my favorite Players. I dont trust most COA`S, I really dont care who wrote or typed them!


                              Good Luck,


                              Sean

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