NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

[legaleagle92481]

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I do agree that Votto has the best chance for a triple crown of the three. It is just too hard for Pujols to make up that deficit in the BA category.

It isn't out of the question for CarGo win either though. If he continues his hot streak, he may catch up in the other categories (and hopefully the rockies will keep winning).

If anyone were to win the Triple Crown, I'd guess it would be Votto.

As I mentioned in an earlier post the homers kill CarGo he is five back but that is alot and very hard to make up. If Pujols hits only five homers the whole rest of the season CarGo would have to hit ten just to tie him. That is 1/3 of his current season total in a single month and very hard for any player to do. Plus its not just Albert ahead of him Votto, Dunn and Reynolds are also with Uggla and Prince right on his tail. The TC is so hard to win earlier in the season it looked like Cabera and Hamilton would make a run and now 1.5 months later neither will finish close to it. It would be great to see one though so I am hoping somebody pulls it off it has been 44 years since Yaz won the last one.

[skier14]

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Man I hope Votto wins MVP and the Reds win out. It would be good to see some fresh blood in the playoffs and winning the biggest award. I would love to watch Chapman throwing 102 mph to Ryan Howard or Adrian Gonzalez in October. Votto is a great story hopefully he wins the triple crown. He is only 3 homers away from it and Albert's average is now 16 points off pace so hes probably the only one with a realistic chance. My point a few days ago was that the Cards are the deeper, more talented and experienced team on paper so theortically they should beat the Reds. Not to say it will happen in fact since then the way the standings have changed it probably won't.

I do agree that Votto has the best chance for a triple crown of the three. It is just too hard for Pujols to make up that deficit in the BA category.

It isn't out of the question for CarGo win either though. If he continues his hot streak, he may catch up in the other categories (and hopefully the rockies will keep winning).

If anyone were to win the Triple Crown, I'd guess it would be Votto.

[legaleagle92481]

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Votto is up in RBI's just to let you know.... and the Reds are now 7 games up.

Man I hope Votto wins MVP and the Reds win out. It would be good to see some fresh blood in the playoffs and winning the biggest award. I would love to watch Chapman throwing 102 mph to Ryan Howard or Adrian Gonzalez in October. Votto is a great story hopefully he wins the triple crown. He is only 3 homers away from it and Albert's average is now 16 points off pace so hes probably the only one with a realistic chance. My point a few days ago was that the Cards are the deeper, more talented and experienced team on paper so theortically they should beat the Reds. Not to say it will happen in fact since then the way the standings have changed it probably won't.

[skier14]

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Votto is up in RBI's just to let you know.... and the Reds are now 7 games up.

That is true, but all three players are getting hot right now, and I know CarGo heating up has really put Colorado on a nice streak lately.

Colorado certainly isn't out of the playoff question, and all three players (Pujols, Votto, CarGo) aren't out of the MVP question either.

Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

[AWA85]

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Pujols will take it again. Gonzalez and Votto both will not be on playoff teams. Gonzalez is a great story , amazing year but he has no realistic shot at the tc because to make up six homers at this point is almost impossible unless Pujols gets hurt. Even if Pujols hits only 4 homers rest of the year, Gonzalez would have to hit 11 to top him and 11 for any player in a month is a steep task. I think Gonzalez will win the batting title and be the one person stopping Albert from a Triple Crown (I think he will win the other two categories). I can't see Votto pulling ahead of Pujols in either Hrs or RBIS as the pennant race heats up.

Votto is up in RBI's just to let you know.... and the Reds are now 7 games up.

[LastingsMilledge85]

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Between Latos, Richard, Garland, and Gregerson among others having incredible seasons and pitching (as they say win postseason games)...but their problem will be the tiring of their tremendous youth pitching along with the lack of offense. But after all, the Padres are now predicted to take the series in seven over the Rays

[cigarman44]

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Milledge -

Since they play in the same division as my Rox, I wasn't going to mention them by name, but they are playing absolutely inspired baseball. with only one real 'star' name - AG.

My buddy and I were talking and at this point, if they stay playing the way they have all year, and the Rox won out the season, the Rox would still come up short on catching them for the NL West.

I'm not asking for the West title, just a serious knock down drag out fight for the Wild Card to finish the season.

They have actually lost 7 of their last 10. There is still hope my friend...

[xpress34]

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Wow, no one wants to give anyone or even the team (Padres) any credit?

Milledge -

Since they play in the same division as my Rox, I wasn't going to mention them by name, but they are playing absolutely inspired baseball. with only one real 'star' name - AG.

My buddy and I were talking and at this point, if they stay playing the way they have all year, and the Rox won out the season, the Rox would still come up short on catching them for the NL West.

I'm not asking for the West title, just a serious knock down drag out fight for the Wild Card to finish the season.

[LastingsMilledge85]

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Wow, no one wants to give anyone or even the team (Padres) any credit?

[BostonSportsFan]

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While I am not going to say that the Cardinals cannot come back from what is now a 6 game defecit, they have hardly been playing inspired baseball. In fact since they swept the Reds what 3 weeks ago, they have absolutely played horrible baseball against many celler dwellers in the NL.

People have been saying all year that the Reds are going to falter, when is this going to happen. They have one month left and have given us 5 months worth of quality baseball. In fact, the Reds and Cards are going in opposite directions. While I would agree, on paper, the Cardinals have the better team, I am beginning to wonder if they are just going to completely underachieve this year and the Reds end up pulling it out.

[legaleagle92481]

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Check the remaining scheds. except for two series with Atlanta the Phils have more cupcakes then a bakery. The Rox except for two series vs. Arizona play the Reds, Pods, Cards, Dodgers and Giants, all over .500 and most in the playoff chase in some cases for multiple series. They have zero head to head games. By pressure experience I meant the Phils have played more postseason games over the last three years than ANY other team. Oswalt is new but he has been to the Series with Houston and the NLCS. Halladay is no experience but he is one of top three pitchers in the game. Rest of the team has pretty much been there each year.

[xpress34]

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They have won the NL two years in a row, have a loaded team of stars with pressure experience, so I just cannot see them coughing it up. Which is why I didn't mention the WC for the Reds or Cards earlier as well. The Rocks may very well get hot but it won't be enough.

I didn't know the Phils were the only team with stars who have pressure experience. Thanks for educating me...

They can cough it up just like the Rox did last year. Colorado had Phillies number in the Division Series but Huston Street gave up the winning run in Game 3 and gave up 3 runs to lose Game 4.

I love reading revisionist history that makes it sound like the Phils rolled the Rockies last year (not saying that you said that).

Again, I guess we'll see how it plays out.

- Chris

[xpress34]

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5 games is nothing with a month and change left to play. They have 3 head to head games left. The Cards have much, much more experience and the better overall team and superior coaching. The Mets blew a 7.5 game lead with 17 games to play once so five with over a month is not a huge deal. The Reds will fold in September/October of that I am confidant.

I forgot to mention (using your argument as a spring board) that in 2007, the Rockies were 10 games out when September started and they won 21 of 22 to force a Tie Breaker on their way to sweeping through the PHILS and the D-Backs on their way to the WS. So a 3.5 game deficit isn't a huge deal.

[xpress34]

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I didn't mention them because they have to jump three teams and imo the Phils don't choke. The Phils have gotten this far with most of their key guys being on the DL for one streach or another but now they are all back. They have won the NL two years in a row, have a loaded team of stars with pressure experience, so I just cannot see them coughing it up. Which is why I didn't mention the WC for the Reds or Cards earlier as well. The Rocks may very well get hot but it won't be enough.

The Rockies too have had major parts out on the DL all season long including 3/5s of their Starting Rotation (Tulo, Cargo, Fowler, Helton, Francis, Cook, Dela Rosa)- it's not like the Phils are the only team to deal with that - plus losing their Team President Keli McGregor the 1st week of the season.

I guess we'll just have to see how it all plays out... Phils did choke again tonight with their ACE (Halladay) on the hill in LA. They got 1 hit.

I'm just saying...

[legaleagle92481]

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So 5 games is nothing but the 4.5 for the Rockies for the Wild card is insurmountable??? Therefore keeping Cargo out of the playoffs???

Counselor -you should know that you can't make an a argument for one side of the court without giving equal time to the other which is exactly what you are stating.

The Rockies have a history of getting hot in September and the Giants and Phillies aren't untouchable either.

I didn't mention them because they have to jump three teams and imo the Phils don't choke. The Phils have gotten this far with most of their key guys being on the DL for one streach or another but now they are all back. They have won the NL two years in a row, have a loaded team of stars with pressure experience, so I just cannot see them coughing it up. Which is why I didn't mention the WC for the Reds or Cards earlier as well. The Rocks may very well get hot but it won't be enough.