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  • Fnazxc0114
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1252

    #16
    Re: AL MVP Race

    Hope he can finish the season. Wouldnt mind seeing him sit out for a week or even take some time on the DL, if it makes him fresh for the playoff run.
    Baseball do what it do
    -Ron Washington

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    • legaleagle92481
      Banned
      • Oct 2009
      • 2538

      #17
      Re: AL MVP Race

      If I were a Texas fan Hamilton's MVP chances would not be on my mind it would be the fact that Lee is hurting and the team is slipping. They have the SIXTH best record in the AL despite playing in the weakest division therein (the other three teams are all sub .500). In the Al East they would be in fourth place and 11 games out of first. They are ten games below .500 against the AL East and four games under .500 outside their bandbox and they will start playoffs on road against the AL East division winner. If Hamilton and Lee don't get healthy for the playoffs a sweep may be in the cards.

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      • Fnazxc0114
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 1252

        #18
        Re: AL MVP Race

        You know none of that stuff means jack in the playoffs. The way the teams been playing lately i hope they dont take a que from the mets of the last decade and choke.
        Baseball do what it do
        -Ron Washington

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        • schubert1970
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 815

          #19
          Re: AL MVP Race

          Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
          Shubert perhaps you should quit watching the national sports media. They will do whatever it takes to help out one of their big market teams. Hes played pretty much every game this season, and his body is a little worn down. He bruised his ribcage on a play that Miggy wouldnt of even been close to making.


          Go Miggy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • sportscrazy13
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 243

            #20
            Re: AL MVP Race

            Originally posted by schubert1970

            Imagine what kind of numbers Miggy would have if he played in the Rangers launching pad.

            Three intentional walks shy of Ted Williams AL record, pretty impressive.
            Gary
            gashlockusmc@yahoo.com

            Always looking for Atlanta Braves & St Louis Blues game used stuff, old and current stars

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            • Fnazxc0114
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1252

              #21
              Re: AL MVP Race

              With hamilton hurt it will probably go to someone on the yankees. Miggy is a great hitter, but he cant change the game in the field. I wonder if the national media would hold a grudge against him for beating his wife last year?
              Baseball do what it do
              -Ron Washington

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              • legaleagle92481
                Banned
                • Oct 2009
                • 2538

                #22
                Re: AL MVP Race

                Call me crazy but I think Jose Bautista takes it. Miggy is not playing well this month, his team sucks and his overall numbers are not otherworldy. Jose is on an over .500 team with a .500 plus record in the AL East. Yes it is in fourth place but they dont have near the talent of the three teams in front of them posses and in the offseason they had traded the probable NL Cy Young Award Winner. The guy has 52 homers and 118 RBIs, .622 slugging % and a 1.005 ops with 100 runs scored. His ba is low at .268 but I think in a down year he will take it based on the increadible power stats, especially if he wrests the RBI crown from Miggy.

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                • schubert1970
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 815

                  #23
                  Re: AL MVP Race

                  Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
                  With hamilton hurt it will probably go to someone on the yankees. Miggy is a great hitter, but he cant change the game in the field. I wonder if the national media would hold a grudge against him for beating his wife last year?
                  If you want to take the sour grapes approach, Josh doesn't have a real nice clean past either. Guy can't keep more then 20 bucks on him.

                  When Miggy wins I'll be the first one to say I told you so. Lol

                  Also he'll finish up strong, unlike Cano.

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                  • sportscrazy13
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 243

                    #24
                    Re: AL MVP Race

                    Originally posted by legaleagle92481
                    Call me crazy but I think Jose Bautista takes it. Miggy is not playing well this month, his team sucks and his overall numbers are not otherworldy. Jose is on an over .500 team with a .500 plus record in the AL East. Yes it is in fourth place but they dont have near the talent of the three teams in front of them posses and in the offseason they had traded the probable NL Cy Young Award Winner. The guy has 52 homers and 118 RBIs, .622 slugging % and a 1.005 ops with 100 runs scored. His ba is low at .268 but I think in a down year he will take it based on the increadible power stats, especially if he wrests the RBI crown from Miggy.
                    Well as of right now both the Jays and Tigers have 78-75 records. Leading the league in HRs doesn't mean you're the MVP. Plus I think with a 266 avg you better have 50+ HRs and like 150+ RBIs.

                    In 2005 Andruw Jones lead the NL with 51 HRs and 128 RBIs on a division winning Braves team. But Pujols won the MVP cause he had better overall numbers in which the cards also won their division.

                    To me a month ago Hamilton and Cabrera were separated from the rest of the MVP pack. They stood alone as far as the MVP race. Hamilton hasn't played sense. And I don't see anyone else having the overall season that Miggy is having. On top of that I think Vladimir Guerrero will take away votes from Hamilton.
                    Gary
                    gashlockusmc@yahoo.com

                    Always looking for Atlanta Braves & St Louis Blues game used stuff, old and current stars

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                    • Fnazxc0114
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1252

                      #25
                      Re: AL MVP Race

                      210 batting avg and 2 hr's in miggys first 70 at bats of sept, bet it goes to cano, and would have gone to hamilton if he hadnt of gotten hurt. Im just bitter our best player is hurt, and daddy aint ever been to a playoff game lol. If anything Miggys past is a testament to the year he had this year. Looks like it made him grow up a little and the results speak for themselves.
                      Originally posted by schubert1970
                      If you want to take the sour grapes approach, Josh doesn't have a real nice clean past either. Guy can't keep more then 20 bucks on him.

                      When Miggy wins I'll be the first one to say I told you so. Lol

                      Also he'll finish up strong, unlike Cano.
                      Baseball do what it do
                      -Ron Washington

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                      • cubbs1232
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 465

                        #26
                        Re: AL MVP Race

                        Wow noone even mentions Carl Crawfords' name. He's only batting .307 with 16 homers 87 rbis 46 steals and has scored 104 times. Not to mention hes one of the top five best outfielders in the game (should win a gold glove this year). He carries that team offensively and defensively. He is the only .300 hitter on a team whose team BA .250. He is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER on any team in MLB.

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                        • vdsporty25
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 405

                          #27
                          Re: AL MVP Race

                          Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
                          With hamilton hurt it will probably go to someone on the yankees. Miggy is a great hitter, but he cant change the game in the field. I wonder if the national media would hold a grudge against him for beating his wife last year?
                          Originally posted by schubert1970
                          If you want to take the sour grapes approach, Josh doesn't have a real nice clean past either. Guy can't keep more then 20 bucks on him.

                          When Miggy wins I'll be the first one to say I told you so. Lol

                          Also he'll finish up strong, unlike Cano.
                          Cabrera is a one dimensional player. He is a very talented hitter but he is an average defensive first baseman on his best days. He is not a team leader and has no business winning an award that is supposed to go to a player who is the most valuable in the entire American League. Short memories for a lot of fans as they must have forgotten he bailed on his team during the Tigers playoff run last year.....the guy is a joke. MVP's don't do that when there team is on the brink of clinching a division. I don't care if he hits 80 HRS a year....he's a bum.

                          Guys that won't get the award but I think should would be Delmon Young or Carl Crawford. Without those guys I think the Twins and Rays wouldn't be where they are today. Both players make a difference at the plate and in the field with little fanfare from the media. Cano deserves consideration as well but he plays for the Yankees and has a lot of help so that will hurt him in the voting. Just my 2 cents....
                          Thanks a lot
                          Josh

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                          • legaleagle92481
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2538

                            #28
                            Re: AL MVP Race

                            Originally posted by cubbs1232
                            Wow noone even mentions Carl Crawfords' name. He's only batting .307 with 16 homers 87 rbis 46 steals and has scored 104 times. Not to mention hes one of the top five best outfielders in the game (should win a gold glove this year). He carries that team offensively and defensively. He is the only .300 hitter on a team whose team BA .250. He is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER on any team in MLB.
                            Its the power stats that kill his chances. If your an outfielder unless you are hitting like .330 plus you are not winning the MVP with sub 20 hrs and sub 100 rbis. Plus Longoria is the guy everyone thinks of when they think of the Rays. I have read writers some of whom have a vote saying Evan should be a prime contender with Miggy, Hamilton, Cano, Bautista, etc. The five best OFs argument is weak as well because there are so few good ones. You have him, Hamilton, Ichiro and that is kind of it. Other than Ichiro no really future HOF locks in the OF.

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                            • cjclong
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 936

                              #29
                              Re: AL MVP Race

                              There is no doubt that Cabrera is an excellent hitter and hits in a ballpark that is is very large. However the idea that he alone hit in a weak line up and everyone else had great support in their lineup is misleading. As far as Hamillton is concerned, Vlad had a good year, but there was a period of time for about a month around the all star game that he was stone cold. Hamilton was carrying the Rangers team with very little help. Both Nelson Cruz and Kinsler have both been on the DL twice for extended periods. The Rangers had little or no production from the first base position, normally a strong point for a team, as well as anemic production at catcher all season. And Young and Andrus got on base much less frequently the scond half meaning Hamiton was batting with two outs, no one on base and not a lot of protection behind him for much of the season.

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                              • suave1477
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 4266

                                #30
                                Re: AL MVP Race

                                Originally posted by cubbs1232
                                Wow noone even mentions Carl Crawfords' name. He's only batting .307 with 16 homers 87 rbis 46 steals and has scored 104 times. Not to mention hes one of the top five best outfielders in the game (should win a gold glove this year). He carries that team offensively and defensively. He is the only .300 hitter on a team whose team BA .250. He is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER on any team in MLB.

                                Well as another member here mentioned it gtes more involved with the power numbers and not to take anything away from Crawforrd and I am just pulling a name out of a hat. Such as Posada for comparison.
                                (Please keep in mind Posada has been riding the bench for 1/3 the season)

                                Jorge Posada Carl Crawford
                                BA 253 309
                                HR 18 17
                                RBI 57 87
                                RUNS 49 106
                                OBP 361 360


                                So for comparison your numbers should be far beyond a guy who rode the bench for part of a season to be considered for MVP

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