Autograph Collecting Info

[trsent]

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Just wish you would come up with something to actually dispute what they state, instead of just always attacking the messenger, and not the message.

No, sorry, I just quote others:

The uproar created by Autograph Alert’s recent allegations against Upper Deck and Razor and their use of suspect Presidential cut autographs made we want to do a little research to find out exactly who is the author and operator of that website. Knowing first hand how cut-throat the autograph authenticity industry can be, I’m glad I did because as it turns out, Steve Koschal is a very disgruntled industry “expert” tied to numerous allegations of fraud, forgery and deception. Once a well respected industry insider with notable credentials, Mr. Koschal has run into some serious criminal allegations.

The International Autograph Collectors Club and Dealers Alliance or IADA-CC confirms that Autograph Alert is run by Mr. Koschal.

A search engine inquiry provides too many results to provide a concise synopsis, but suffice it today that it is always important to know the source of an allegation before finding someone immediately guilty. For those wanting to learn more about who is exactly behind the so-called "news" at Autograph Alert, please feel free to do your own research by reading any of the following articles:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2007/07/15/2007-07-15_lack_of_intent_seen_in_flubs_at_auctions.html The testimony of two experts hired by Daniels to testify that some of the autographs on the photos were forgeries was excluded by the judge. Kincaid said neither Richard Simon nor Stephen Koschal "possess sufficient skill, knowledge or experience in the fields in which they were asked to render opinions."

http://www.stephenkoschal.com/drseuss_sp_cat.html fakes include

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/426/RipOff0426764.htmhttp://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/424/RipOff0424885.htm

(http://autographdealernews.com/Articles.aspx?article=11

http://www.squidoo.com/amazingjourneys

http://www.uacc.info/page66.htmlhttp://www.sptimes.com/2004/06/06/State/Sale_of_Chicago_seria.shtml

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/serial_killer_art/6.html

http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000330.html koschal published fake Armstrongs as real so he could sell his forgeries

http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000332.html more of the same

[sammy]

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Sorry Joel, I still don't see anything to support your accusations.

If you would have actually done any research into the UD and Razor fiasco, you would have found out that Koschal was right and Razor/UD did replace some of those autographs because they were suspect.

You have a Judge involved with the Mastro ripoff stating that Koshal and Simon were not qualified. That was based on technical issues, not hobby experience.

You have a couple of mysterious people stating whatever. Believe that one site is run by John Reznikoff who is exposed on the AA site, but the author doesn't sign his name, so nobody knows.

You have some articles about Koschal selling artwork done by a convicted killer.

Still don't see you disputing ANYTHING stated on that site with anything relevent. Still just trying to attack the messenger, not the message.

Preach it Joel.

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[spartanservitto]

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They sent out a FB status about over 1000 sandy koufax, mantle, and ali autographs being fake... then they offer for sale "legit" mantle autographs. Its just a ploy...

Granted every company is going to have mistakes or errors, it happens, especially with the human element involved, but for this site to just bash like they are the second coming of christ... its just an add ploy.

-Tony

[trsent]

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Still don't see you disputing ANYTHING stated on that site with anything relevent. Still just trying to attack the messenger, not the message.

Preach it Joel.

You forgot to mention the warrant in New Jersey for unpaid child support.

You praise a person who attacks others, hides behind a hidden agenda since they are attacking their competition, won't admit they are writing the articles by signing them, and then you want us the believe everything they post is fact.

You don't believe a judge can decide who is qualified to make decisions of who is qualified, but you continue to praise a web site that no one but yourself takes seriously.

As for his work with John Wayne Gacy - Pathetic and very suspect of a man's character to make profit off a man who was convicted of killing 33 boys, young children, just outside of Chicago. Steve was refereed to as Gacy's agent. I understand, you can't pay child support in New Jersey and you can represent a man who took the lives of 33 innocent children moving his artwork.

Sorry, keep trying to make me to be a bad guy, but the way you write it is believed you are well into this site to the point that you must be involved a lot more than you admit. No one praises a guy who won't pay child support unless they have a hidden agenda.

[legaleagle92481]

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Why do you all care so much? Are any of you working for these companies? NOONE can tell for sure whether an autograph they did not see signed is real. Autographs are like snowflakes no two are the same. Authentic sigs don't match exemplars sometimes and fake sigs at times appear to. All these guys are just rendering an opinion for money. To me with modern stuff who needs them? Buy from a big company or something that started there or get it signed yourself.

[trsent]

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Why do you all care so much? Are any of you working for these companies? NOONE can tell for sure whether an autograph they did not see signed is real. Autographs are like snowflakes no two are the same. Authentic sigs don't match exemplars sometimes and fake sigs at times appear to. All these guys are just rendering an opinion for money. To me with modern stuff who needs them? Buy from a big company or something that started there or get it signed yourself.

Oh yeah, you are the guy who preaches the autograph companies like UDA, Steiner, Mounted. They are great companies, and except for Steiner who in the past didn't always witness everything being signed, they are usually very reliable.

Not every autograph a collector wants can be found from these companies.

There are companies that give opinions, that are not 100% perfect, but well respected in the industry. Then there are companies that are not 100% perfect that are not well respected in the industry. The haves are happy and the have nots like to whine on an anonymous forum to promote their jealousy of those who have perfected the craft.

We are debating facts over both sides. A good discussion for others to appreciate. If you don't appreciate the discussion, there are plenty of other areas of Game Used Universe you can give your expertise to.

[sammy]

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Over 1000 views in less then 3 days.

So many more people are viewing Autograph Alert.

Thanks Joel!

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[spartanservitto]

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Over 1000 views in less then 3 days.

So many more people are viewing Autograph Alert.

Thanks Joel!

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Kind of smug if you ask me whether it be the promotion, or the cheap shots at fellow forum members.

-Tony

[sammy]

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Hey Tony,

I know you are fairly new on here, but Joel and I go back a long time with this stuff.

He gets his digs in, I get mine.

Have a nice day.

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[sox83cubs84]

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I find it odd that soemone who posts a classic and true verse from the Bible at the bottom of his posts is so quick to pass judgement and engage in name calling above those God-breathed words.

Dave Miedema

[spartanservitto]

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Hey Tony,

I know you are fairly new on here, but Joel and I go back a long time with this stuff.

He gets his digs in, I get mine.

Have a nice day.

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Sorry, Text doesn't do the justice of context. Apologize.

-Tony

[sammy]

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Hey Dave,

I'm not quick, and I am just human.

Joel and I go back years, so I've had a long time to get to this point.

Have a nice day too.

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[kudu]

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Kind of smug if you ask me whether it be the promotion, or the cheap shots at fellow forum members.

-Tony

+1

I find it odd that soemone who posts a classic and true verse from the Bible at the bottom of his posts is so quick to pass judgement and engage in name calling above those God-breathed words.

Dave Miedema

+1

[trsent]

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It doesn't matter if we go back years or not. My points have never changed and the arguments that Sam Johnson reply with each and every time are to attach me personally and not to defend his interest in why he promotes Autograph Alert on this forum for years and years now.

At the end of the day, Autograph Alert is a low class operation that has a hidden agenda which is to attack those they do not like, most of whom have been successful in the autograph authentication industry. They have been accused of making up facts and blowing up minor errors way out of proportion.

Once in a while their points are honest and valid, but at the end of the day, when they write how terrible 3rd party authentication is, but then push their own 3rd party authentication company, it is a double standard that shows the character flaws that Sam Johnson doesn't want to admit.

Sam, why don't you do some good and make sure the guy is paying his child support and stop attacking me over posting the truth?

[yankees506]

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I think some people just want to sling mud at each other, i find it very concerning that jsa would fail uda and witnessed items. regardless of who is behind exposing this, jsa has a huge black eye here. it seems as if the make judgements and not opinions..... i dont trust 3rd party authenticators and this is an example why, truly useless