Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

[trsent]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

Wow did my thread really get derailed?

Oh wait, is that word offensive and should be saved for trains only?

Funny thing about The White Sox is we went back on Friday night because they have a firework show after the game. Two outs in the ninth inning, no one on base, White Sox up by two, I turn to my wife and steal a Ken Hawk Harrelson comment "This is the man we have been waiting 2 hours and 43 minutes for".

...about 25 minutes later The White Sox finally made their own three outs in the 9th to seal a loss by two runs.

Sergio Santos lost two games this week and they were the only two games we have gone to at Comiskey this year. He should ask us not to come back.

By the way, fog flew over the stadium during the 25 minutes it took for the White Sox to blow a lead and make out in the 9th with a loss. The fireworks were hard to see!

[kudu]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

LOL....Ransom....

[AWA85]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

ransom - a release of a person or property in return for payment of a demanded price.

According to: Webster's II New College Dictionary


Can we stop using that term when referencing home run balls being returned/not returned? If you really want an example of "ransom," go google the Lindbergh baby.
C'mon, people!

It amazes me how critical and agitated people get on a GAME USED MESSAGE BOARD. I guess everything has to be politically correct these days and please everyone when sharing a game used sports comment on an internet message board. No wonder many of the regulars including myself have cut back posting game used discussions on here.

[commando]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

I think you missed the point...but, it's okay.

On one hand, you have a serious reference to a serious life situation.
On the other hand, you have a serious reference to something that means little to nothing.

Just trying to keep things in perspective...that's all.

I actually agree with you, to be honest, but not necessarily on the word "ransom." MY pet peeve is when someone says they are "starving," and they ate a full meal and dessert two hours ago.

[happyyoungster]

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ransom

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. the definition of ransom is:

A consideration paid or demanded for the release of someone or something from captivity.

In addition, the definition YOU posted from Webster's also mentions the withholding of property.

So, the use of the word "ransom" is correct if referring to either the Lindbergh baby OR the Lindbergh baby's baseball.

I think you missed the point...but, it's okay.

On one hand, you have a serious reference to a serious life situation.
On the other hand, you have a serious reference to something that means little to nothing.

Just trying to keep things in perspective...that's all.

[commando]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

ransom - a release of a person or property in return for payment of a demanded price.

According to: Webster's II New College Dictionary


Can we stop using that term when referencing home run balls being returned/not returned? If you really want an example of "ransom," go google the Lindbergh baby.
C'mon, people!

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ransom

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. the definition of ransom is:

A consideration paid or demanded for the release of someone or something from captivity.

In addition, the definition YOU posted from Webster's also mentions the withholding of property.

So, the use of the word "ransom" is correct if referring to either the Lindbergh baby OR the Lindbergh baby's baseball.

[happyyoungster]

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I know there are a few happy that people all over are throwing home runs back, one has to be Mike Moustakas who hit his first home run in LA. The fan threw it back instantly and the ball made it's way to the Royals dugout.

Royals announcers said the same thing happened when Hos hit his first home run in New York. Both are lucky they weren't held ransom!

ransom - a release of a person or property in return for payment of a demanded price.

According to: Webster's II New College Dictionary


Can we stop using that term when referencing home run balls being returned/not returned? If you really want an example of "ransom," go google the Lindbergh baby.
C'mon, people!

[jppopma]

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Any HR ball I catch goes right to the kiddo. It's funny that Dave mentioned the Bums taking a ball from a kid to throw it back. I can guarantee they would not be far behind that ball getting thrown on the field.

[AWA85]

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I know there are a few happy that people all over are throwing home runs back, one has to be Mike Moustakas who hit his first home run in LA. The fan threw it back instantly and the ball made it's way to the Royals dugout.

Royals announcers said the same thing happened when Hos hit his first home run in New York. Both are lucky they weren't held ransom!

[xpress34]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

Technically, it falls under "throwing objects on the playing field", and should be grounds for ejection.

+1

And if the fans would actually LISTEN to the announcements that are made at each park before each game (I know, it's kind of like trying to listen to the stewardess on the plane give you the same safety briefing for the xxxxth time before your flight) you would know that MOST MLB stadiums do announce that ANY fan caught throwing ANY object onto the field of play will be subject to ejection and possible arrest and fines.

Coors Field says it multiple times in their welcome announcements and always has.

- Smitty

[frikativ54]

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FTR...I have gotten 5 visitor HR game baseballs at Wrigley (Bret Boone, Biggio, Charles Johnson, Derek Bell, and Bichette) both in the stands and on the street...I have NEVER thrown one back, and, if I get one in the future, never will. The bleacher drunks yelling at me can stick it where the sun never shines!

Dave Miedema

I definitely agree with the sentiment. For one thing, I think the "tradition" is quite rude.

[jobathenut]

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Wow dave, you caught a charles johnson home run.Thats really rare....Just kidding,he was my favorite player, as he played for my favorite college team the hurricanes.I love the maimi hurricanes and they had a awesome team back then.And charles johnson was the best.I was a big fan og his.....

FTR...I have gotten 5 visitor HR game baseballs at Wrigley (Bret Boone, Biggio, Charles Johnson, Derek Bell, and Bichette) both in the stands and on the street...I have NEVER thrown one back, and, if I get one in the future, never will. The bleacher drunks yelling at me can stick it where the sun never shines!

Dave Miedema

[sox83cubs84]

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FTR...I have gotten 5 visitor HR game baseballs at Wrigley (Bret Boone, Biggio, Charles Johnson, Derek Bell, and Bichette) both in the stands and on the street...I have NEVER thrown one back, and, if I get one in the future, never will. The bleacher drunks yelling at me can stick it where the sun never shines!

Dave Miedema

[sox83cubs84]

Re: Fan at Comiskey Park Ejected for Throwing Home Run Ball Back on Field

Technically, it falls under "throwing objects on the playing field", and should be grounds for ejection. Wrigley Field looks the other way, partially due to a few of the reasons Dave D. cited, and partially to maintain the frat party image the Bud Light Bleachers reflects.

The Cubs don't eject fans who throw baseballs back, but, in the mid-1990s, they DID eject a fan for dumping his grandfather's ashes (Grandpa's wish) on the left center field warning track during the 7th inning stretch.

Personally, this is dumb, and drunks in the bleachers at Wrigley sometimes take the "throw it back" demands to an extreme where the safety of the fan who has the enemy home run ball is jeopardized. I've seen fans showered with garbage, an old man intimidated to the point of having a case of the shakes, know a fan who was literally chased out of the bleachers, and have been told by older Ballhawks of bleacher drunks ripping offending baseballs out of kids' hands to fulfill the tradition. And, one of the Waveland Avenue guys a number of years ago threw a ball back after I pounced on a Dante Bichette home run, because he was worried that, if I didn't throw the Bichette ball back (which I refused to do), that he feared bleacher bums would come out on the street and kick our asses.

The Cubs will continue to allow this idiocy until the day comes where a fan is physically harmed or injured by a bleacher idiot who's had too much to drink,

[ballhawknet]

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Next to garlic fries and The Wave, yelling at a fan to throw a home run ball back onto the field is probably just about the stupidest ballpark "tradition" to come down the road. I see no difference between tossing a baseball from the stands and throwing a beer bottle - eject the tosser in both cases, by all means, and start at Wrigley.

I agree it is a dumb tradition . I only do it ( fake ball of course ) because honestly .... its fun ! To see just how far I can throw the ball , maybe get a piece of the guy rounding second base ... lol J/K . And many times it turns out to be the " play of the day "

I disagree about it being the same as a beer bottle . All players around the leagues are aware that there is a chance the opposing team hr ball is going to be tossed back so they keep an eye out until the game resumes . And usually its a weak 50 foot toss ... lol. The pressure of having dozens if not a hundred or so fans yelling to toss it back is enough to make most fans give in and do it. And for that reason I don't think they should eject fans for doing it.

White Sox have not always ejected the fans. Although the last 5+ years Ive seen dozens of fans removed for doing so at the park. As long as it gets done quickly , like before the next pitch , I don't see anything wrong with it .

I have to brag and say my favorite toss back was at US Cellular , I forget the batter , but the shortstop never even turned to watch the homer . He just stood there bent over with his hands on his knees and the throwback rolled right through his legs.