“everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

[brewcrew]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

Paul,
I don't want to speak for frik but I don't think she was calling anyone out or targeting you specifically. But as a woman, I can see her perspective, and I am sure you can think of examples of members of this forum who go overboard in some of their postings (otherwise, we wouldn't have had someone start this thread to begin with).

There are people in life and on this message board and everywhere on the internet who want to prove they are better, smarter, more frugal, or have nicer stuff than other people. I don't think you're one of them, nor do I think the majority of posters on this board have the intent of trying to bring down anyone else.

However, I have seen examples of nitpicky fights on this board with regard to certain items or players that make me wonder if I'm back in junior high. People with more experience or particular knowledge have a duty to educate but not a right to feel superior. Just as people with less experience shouldn't take it personally or question someone's integrity when many posters on here are just honestly trying to help people out, not start a silly schoolyard fight.

Please continue to share your collection. We all enjoy seeing the pleasure that other people get from this hobby.

[frikativ54]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

Paul,
I don't want to speak for frik but I don't think she was calling anyone out or targeting you specifically. But as a woman, I can see her perspective, and I am sure you can think of examples of members of this forum who go overboard in some of their postings (otherwise, we wouldn't have had someone start this thread to begin with).

There are people in life and on this message board and everywhere on the internet who want to prove they are better, smarter, more frugal, or have nicer stuff than other people. I don't think you're one of them, nor do I think the majority of posters on this board have the intent of trying to bring down anyone else.

Thanks, brewcrew. You are right that I was not targeting Paul with this post; he wasn't even on my radar as a person who is a hoarder. I don't have a problem if people own several jerseys of the same player. I understand that people like to collect a home, road, and alternate jersey of a specific individual from each year. That makes perfect sense, as the shirts may be different styles. That's not what I'm criticizing by any stretch of the imagination. Instead I have a problem with that guy who has 20 bats, and I have none. I ask him to sell to me, and he refuses because he wants to corner the market.

A good example of what irks me is the experience I've had where I or a friend has posted something, and someone immediately responds with six or seven things they just bought of the same player. Or when I've made a point, and it's been undercut by one guy who posts his 10 jerseys as bragging rights. Like my point isn't valid because I don't own as much stuff. I've had things like this happen on this forum. In the end, I have stopped posting most of my acquisitions, because I don't want to get into a competition about whose is bigger. And I'm not the only one; people I know have had similar experiences.

[MarkakisMania]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

Thanks, brewcrew. You are right that I was not targeting Paul with this post; he wasn't even on my radar as a person who is a hoarder. I don't have a problem if people own several jerseys of the same player. I understand that people like to collect a home, road, and alternate jersey of a specific individual from each year. That makes perfect sense, as the shirts may be different styles. That's not what I'm criticizing by any stretch of the imagination. Instead I have a problem with that guy who has 20 bats, and I have none. I ask him to sell to me, and he refuses because he wants to corner the market.

A good example of what irks me is the experience I've had where I or a friend has posted something, and someone immediately responds with six or seven things they just bought of the same player. Or when I've made a point, and it's been undercut by one guy who posts his 10 jerseys as bragging rights. Like my point isn't valid because I don't own as much stuff. I've had things like this happen on this forum. In the end, I have stopped posting most of my acquisitions, because I don't want to get into a competition about whose is bigger. And I'm not the only one; people I know have had similar experiences.

I still do not understand this thought process. I am a Markakis Maniac and primarily collect Nick's stuff however at no point do I think that I will ever "corner the market" on his stuff. This is just one example but as a collector if you have 10, 20, 50, 100 of a players game used bats, keep in mind that most players order a minimum of what 150 bats a year today. It is not even remotely reasonable that anybody is going to be able to obtain even 50% of any one players gamers assuming that they have a major league career of say at least 5 full seasons and are an everyday player.

As a collector, if someone calls me about a Markakis gamer and wants to buy I will certainly listen to the offer but 99.9% of the time I am not selling, that is the guy I collect and it has nothing to do with trying to hoarde that one player or being rude. If I want a gamer of whatever player as a collector there is certainly more than one source to obtain gamers. Just because you as a collector wants a bat of a player I collect does not mean that an item is always available. You are certainly able to search multiple places for that item you seek.

Again, I just don't really see the point of that post, it makes no sense. What one chooses to collect or enjoys collecting is up to them. I honestly don't know that anyone here or elsewhere has a thought process that goes through their mind in collecting of I am really putting the screws to everyone, nobody but me can or will ever own anything else of player x.

In this day and age where virtually every team, player, etc. sells their game used in one venue or another, I just cannot imagine virtually any players game used being completely unattainable. Even if I had a source from a team for player gamers, I certainly cannot get everything as items will get through the door that my source could not even get.

Jeb

[brianborsch]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

And just like "everyone else" we are passing judgement on others with these comments. I see nothing wrong with someone collecting the same type of items. It's all preference.

[R.Mansfield]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

This thread has nothing to do with collecting all one player or hoarding bats...I think it has gotten off topic quite a bit...

Russell Mansfield
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[skier14]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

I still do not understand this thought process. I am a Markakis Maniac and primarily collect Nick's stuff however at no point do I think that I will ever "corner the market" on his stuff. This is just one example but as a collector if you have 10, 20, 50, 100 of a players game used bats, keep in mind that most players order a minimum of what 150 bats a year today. It is not even remotely reasonable that anybody is going to be able to obtain even 50% of any one players gamers assuming that they have a major league career of say at least 5 full seasons and are an everyday player.

As a collector, if someone calls me about a Markakis gamer and wants to buy I will certainly listen to the offer but 99.9% of the time I am not selling, that is the guy I collect and it has nothing to do with trying to hoarde that one player or being rude. If I want a gamer of whatever player as a collector there is certainly more than one source to obtain gamers. Just because you as a collector wants a bat of a player I collect does not mean that an item is always available. You are certainly able to search multiple places for that item you seek.

Again, I just don't really see the point of that post, it makes no sense. What one chooses to collect or enjoys collecting is up to them. I honestly don't know that anyone here or elsewhere has a thought process that goes through their mind in collecting of I am really putting the screws to everyone, nobody but me can or will ever own anything else of player x.

In this day and age where virtually every team, player, etc. sells their game used in one venue or another, I just cannot imagine virtually any players game used being completely unattainable. Even if I had a source from a team for player gamers, I certainly cannot get everything as items will get through the door that my source could not even get.

Jeb

I completely agree. I enjoy collecting what I collect, and I have always listened to people interested about buying something from me, and usually I will say that it is unlikely upfront. Even with that I have sold items from my collection before.

I have also helped people interested in buying Tulowitzki items from other sources. I have been asked many questions, and try to be as helpful as I can be. I really don't see how this has anything to do with the original topic of this thread, and is relevant. Frik, just because someone has 20 bats and you have none is not really a fair argument; most of the time you could have had the chance to purchase the item as well (but didn't get there first). I'm sure something will come up for sale whether it is from that person, or another source. A collector doesn't have an obligation to sell something, or not buy something just because he has a lot of that item.

[godwulf]

Re: “everything I Own Is Real, All Of Your Stuff Is Fake”

And just like "everyone else" we are passing judgement on others with these comments. I see nothing wrong with someone collecting the same type of items. It's all preference.

Ironic that the thread should start off talking about people who somewhat snobbishly critique other collectors' purchases, and then be diverted, by one or two posters, into a similar brand of criticism.