We ARE State Penn

[freddiefreeman5]

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What kind of sick jerk sees another sick jerk sexually abusing a child and does nothing?
Everyone who knew about it, heard about it, and saw it should face criminal charges for not at least calling the police.
Just because you report the incident to someone else it is still your responsibility as a decent person to follow up and make sure the law was contacted.

[camarokids]

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Also @ Camerokids, JoePA did not personally witness anything. A grad student was the eyewitness and reported it to Joe, who immediately reported it to Curry (who then apparently withheld the information, hence why he is being now charged with perjury). Now, should he have spoken to Sandusky personally and say "what the he11 was this all about"? Or perhaps followed up with Curry? Of course. No one really knows what happened there, so I am going to let that play out in the legal system. Of course if Joe somehow knew more, than yes his actions were indefensible. But for now that does not seem to be the case.

Maybe I misread the article? I thought I read Joe P. witnessed an attach and reported it to Curry. One of these guys should have confronted this POS Sandusky. All of those boys are scarred permanently. I bet the school will be hit with some major lawsuits! Rightfully so!

My wife was born not far from Penn State and her parents as well. She has family in the area.

[Shipp_96]

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Again, Not picking on Penn State, but thise just brings really really bad publicity to the University especially in light of the additional charges of perjury against two major high ranking Penn State officials.

Jeb

Hey Jeb,

You are correct, and I apologize for not bringing up earlier the University officials that have now been brought in on perjury charges. Repulsive is the only word for it, and it falls well short of expressing how sick this makes actually me feel. As bad as Sandusky is, the true crime would be a cover up that allowed this to go on far longer than it ever should have.

When I first graduated I moved back to State College to live, and one of my first official "real" jobs was teaching art to young children on campus in an after school program sponsored by the University. All of these children in the area idolized Penn State football and the players. Some players like Curtis Enis were kind enough to stop by and spend some time with the class, which made these kids on cloud 9! This was in 1997, so to think a sexual predator like Sandusky was around and lurking with potentially one of the children I taught makes me shaken and disturbed beyond belief.

I and all alums have some real connection to their former school, and this whole event goes beyond what Sandusky did for a living. If the allegations are true, he scarred young men for life. There is nothing that can take that away or make this story have a happy ending. As I stated earlier, it is the WORST crime there is. Period.

Also @ Camerokids, JoePA did not personally witness anything. A grad student was the eyewitness and reported it to Joe, who immediately reported it to Curry (who then apparently withheld the information, hence why he is being now charged with perjury). Now, should he have spoken to Sandusky personally and say "what the he11 was this all about"? Or perhaps followed up with Curry? Of course. No one really knows what happened there, so I am going to let that play out in the legal system. Of course if Joe somehow knew more, than yes his actions were indefensible. But for now that does not seem to be the case.

[frikativ54]

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i have been involved with the law for a long time and in my experience this type of thing is not something someone suddenly starts doing later in life it is something that they do for decades. these crimes are not reported more often then they are as many of the poor, innocent victims are too ashamed to tell anybody about it, particularly when boys are victimized. these guys tend to go from victim to victim so i am sure there is alot more to come on this as his arrest may give more victims the courage to come forward. may he spend the rest of his life in a general population prision cell.

Right on the money. Since there is no effective treatment for sexual predators, they are right up there with serial killers as the most dangerous of all criminals.

[Gocong57]

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i have been involved with the law for a long time and in my experience this type of thing is not something someone suddenly starts doing later in life it is something that they do for decades. these crimes are not reported more often then they are as many of the poor, innocent victims are too ashamed to tell anybody about it, particularly when boys are victimized. these guys tend to go from victim to victim so i am sure there is alot more to come on this as his arrest may give more victims the courage to come forward. may he spend the rest of his life in a general population prision cell.

Assuming he's convicted, I can see him claiming a terminal illness related to his advanced age in attempt to delay the inevitable.

What's equally terrible are PSU officials who sat on their hands and did nothing to protect the minor victims who traipsed through campus facilities with this perp include JoePa.

[legaleagle92481]

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i have been involved with the law for a long time and in my experience this type of thing is not something someone suddenly starts doing later in life it is something that they do for decades. these crimes are not reported more often then they are as many of the poor, innocent victims are too ashamed to tell anybody about it, particularly when boys are victimized. these guys tend to go from victim to victim so i am sure there is alot more to come on this as his arrest may give more victims the courage to come forward. may he spend the rest of his life in a general population prision cell.

[ironmanfan]

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anyone that thinks that Sandusky just happened to start this behavior after his official employment in "Happy Valley" needs a reality check (BTW, I live in Pennsylvania)....

I'm wondering whch 'straw puppet' is taking the hit for JoePa for what he knew........

[camarokids]

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Just sick!

Others at school should be arrested as well. Paterno did not follow up and say what happened with what I saw?

Why not call the police yourself? This reeks of a coverup!

[MarkakisMania]

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[MarkakisMania]

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Yeah, it's beyond disgusting, and he also has not been a member of the coaching staff since the 1990s. So great play on words there in your title. This sick deviant has also not been part of the school for over 13 years, so way to go after the University. I guess when you a run an otherwise squeaky clean program, people are quick to come out of the wood works and attack when any opportunity presents itself.

Now make no mistake on my position, this is repulsive and unacceptable behavior. If he is found guilty I hope they throw the book at him. There is NO worse crime than pedophilia, IMO. It truly sickens me reading the details in the link below.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...ase/51083628/1

Another child, known only as a boy about 11 to 13, was seen by a janitor pinned against a wall while Sandusky performed oral sex on him in fall 2000, the jury said.
And in 2002, Kelly said, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in a team locker room. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.
Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said.
“Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law,” Kelly said

Sandusky retired after the Alamo Bowl victory over Texas A & M in 1999. The thing is, several of these charges levied above from the article note that these incidents took place apparently on campus at State College. While he was at that time no longer employed by the University, it kinds of begs the question, why was he on campus in positions to do any of these acts if these allegations are true to these young boys as he was no longer employed by Penn State in any capacity?

Again, Not picking on Penn State, but thise just brings really really bad publicity to the University especially in light of the additional charges of perjury against two major high ranking Penn State officials.

Jeb

[MarkakisMania]

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Yeah, it's beyond disgusting, and he also has not been a member of the coaching staff since the 1990s. So great play on words there in your title. This sick deviant has also not been part of the school for over 13 years, so way to go after the University. I guess when you a run an otherwise squeaky clean program, people are quick to come out of the wood works and attack when any opportunity presents itself.

Now make no mistake on my position, this is repulsive and unacceptable behavior. If he is found guilty I hope they throw the book at him. There is NO worse crime than pedophilia, IMO. It truly sickens me reading the details in the link below.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...ase/51083628/1

Shipp, not necessarily a Penn State fan but my girlfriend is a Penn State Alumnus and she could not believe this. This story has been floating out there for a couple of years to one degree or another and as mentioned it is absolutely disgusting to whatever degree this is true.

I don't think Bill was attacking Penn State at all, but what was not mentioned by you is that long time Penn State AD Tim Curley is expected to turn himself in on Monday as an arrest warrant was issued due to Perjury charges. If what is mentioned is true, it is incomprehensible that Curley would not have reported the information he was reportedly told to authorities.

We will have to see how this plays out but this really stinks of a cover up by high ranking University officials trying to protect a guy that was once a very well respected member of the coaching staff at one point and time.

I hope that is not true, only time will tell. If it is, some heads are sure to roll at PSU very high up the food chain.

Jeb

[Shipp_96]

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disgusting....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ch-allegations

Yeah, it's beyond disgusting, and he also has not been a member of the coaching staff since the 1990s. So great play on words there in your title. This sick deviant has also not been part of the school for over 13 years, so way to go after the University. I guess when you a run an otherwise squeaky clean program, people are quick to come out of the wood works and attack when any opportunity presents itself.

Now make no mistake on my position, this is repulsive and unacceptable behavior. If he is found guilty I hope they throw the book at him. There is NO worse crime than pedophilia, IMO. It truly sickens me reading the details in the link below.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-11-05/penn-state-abuse-case/51083628/1

[ironmanfan]

disgusting....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstateex-coach-allegations