Albert Pujols to the Angels

[MLB~NUT]

Re: Albert Pujols to the Angels

We're rooting for laundry! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSD6Y2YWj4

Love yah Jeff, but don't bring Seinfeld into a baseball discussion! -9 points...

[freddiefreeman5]

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We're rooting for laundry! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSD6Y2YWj4

LOL!

[Birdbats]

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How quickly the fans turn on their once favorite sons.

We're rooting for laundry! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSD6Y2YWj4

[xpress34]

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So...because Albert Pujols did not like signing, he was Bin Laden in a baseball uniform?

Sorry man, not buying it.

RJ -

I said it once and I'll say it again - I applaud the man for his charity work, don't get me wrong...

But he treats the fans (at least here in Denver) like they are less than nothing - and I have spent time with him back in 2002 when I worked at Nike. I got to spend like 4-5 hours with him as he shopped the store on his comp and he signed a beautiful ball for me, but since then, he seems to show true disdain for the fans.

Case in point, 2 years ago behind Coors Field - ALL of the players in MLB are aware that for the past 3 years now, Coors Field has not let cabs or limos drive into the parking area, so players either go the front gate, ride the bus, or get out of their cab/limo out back and choose to sign or not as they walk past the autograph seekers.

Pujols had his family with him on the final day of the series and had not one, but two limos waiting out back for him after the game. When he came out, we were told by his 'goon squad' (The Prince couldn't be bothered to address us himself) of security not to talk to him, not to ask for autographs and not to photograph him.

We were assembled in a PUBLIC place - not like we followed him into his hotel (I generally don't go the hotel as a rule myself) or to dinner or something. We are in an area that is maintained by Coors Field to be safe for both the players and the fans and he and his 'entourage' acted like we were trespassing on HIS private property.

It will be interesting to see if he has a Randy Johnson moment once he realizes the cameras are EVERYWHERE in the L.A. area just like NYC and the paparazzi will be all over his every movement out there as he is the biggest thing to hit the L.A. area since Kobe/Shaq and Linehart.

Just my .02

[freddiefreeman5]

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Teach to me talk on the phone and type at the same time.

I meant....How quickly the fans turn on their once favorite sons.

[freddiefreeman5]

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How quickly the fans turns own their once favorite sons.

[rj_lucas]

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/09/opinio...ols/index.html

Above is another interesting article. I was as big a fan as the next guy. Someone told me once you may not want to meet your most favored player....they might disappoint you. Well, I met him twice at the Cardinals Witner Warmup and this article paints a 100% accurate picture. Can't wait to hear the stories of Angels collectors in the coming seasons.

So...because Albert Pujols did not like signing, he was Bin Laden in a baseball uniform?

Sorry man, not buying it.

[Birdbats]

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The crying poor comment was how they portrayed their team and city as a smaller market and their constraints on spending. I dont buy it. The market is what you create. ST Louis attendance is robust, advertising is evident, TV rights are owned by the team.

I was just told that the Angels new television deal earns the Angels $100 million more per season than the Cardinals' TV deal earns the Cards (the Cards' deal is for less than $50M, as I understand it). So, the difference in TV contracts could just about cover the Cardinals' entire team payroll.

[onlyalbert]

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/09/opinion/pearlman-pujols/index.html

Above is another interesting article. I was as big a fan as the next guy. Someone told me once you may not want to meet your most favored player....they might disappoint you. Well, I met him twice at the Cardinals Witner Warmup and this article paints a 100% accurate picture. Can't wait to hear the stories of Angels collectors in the coming seasons.

[frikativ54]

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In the beginning, both Albert and Dee Dee were a little skeptical of Moreno's charming ways. "I think anyone is going to be great when they're trying to get you to come to their organization," said Dee Dee Pujols. "But in the short time we've known Arte, he's a great guy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know when someone is genuine."

That is an interesting last sentence especially after all the stories about Pujols' agent Dan Lozano came out on Deadspin.

This is a very good point; I'm not sure just how good of a judge of character Pujols is. The whole thing with the Angels sounds like an elaborate marketing pitch, comparable with the best in the business.

On a totally different note, I've heard rumors that Albert Pujols may be a little older than he says, like 34. If the Cards had any such knowledge, perhaps that's part of why they wouldn't agree to such a long-term deal.

[allstarsplus]

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In my opinion, this piece by Bryan Burwell comes closer to hitting the nail on the head than anything else I've read:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-pujols-charmed-by-angels/article_824c2458-7d00-56ad-8f8a-e969832611af.html

Generations from now, when people look back at this, there's only one question they'll ask:

How could the Cardinals have ever allowed Albert Pujols to reach free agency?

Everything else is just noise.

In the beginning, both Albert and Dee Dee were a little skeptical of Moreno's charming ways. "I think anyone is going to be great when they're trying to get you to come to their organization," said Dee Dee Pujols. "But in the short time we've known Arte, he's a great guy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know when someone is genuine."

That is an interesting last sentence especially after all the stories about Pujols' agent Dan Lozano came out on Deadspin.

[woodbat]

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Yes, it does. I'm a Cardinals collector and I run my site for other Cardinals collectors. I tracked Pujols because he was the focus of so many Cardinals collectors. I admittedly don't know much about McGwire's Oakland bats because my focus is his Cardinals stuff; same will go for Pujols.

Now that he's an Angel, maybe an Angels fan will take up the challenge. Even if I wanted to continue tracking Pujols, I'd have access to very few games. Sure, I could subscribe online, but I have zero interest in watching Angels games just to see what Pujols is using.

In a way, it's almost a relief. The Cardinals-era book now has a beginning, middle and end. If Pujols starts using purple B45 bats with green handle tape and hot pink tar next year, someone else can document it. I'll keep researching everything I can about his finite career in St. Louis.

AMEN!!!!

[rj_lucas]

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In my opinion, this piece by Bryan Burwell comes closer to hitting the nail on the head than anything else I've read:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-pujols-charmed-by-angels/article_824c2458-7d00-56ad-8f8a-e969832611af.html

Generations from now, when people look back at this, there's only one question they'll ask:

How could the Cardinals have ever allowed Albert Pujols to reach free agency?

Everything else is just noise.

[Birdbats]

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Hey Jeff, this marks the end of an era in St.L. Does it also mark the end of the Pujols bat chart?

Yes, it does. I'm a Cardinals collector and I run my site for other Cardinals collectors. I tracked Pujols because he was the focus of so many Cardinals collectors. I admittedly don't know much about McGwire's Oakland bats because my focus is his Cardinals stuff; same will go for Pujols.

Now that he's an Angel, maybe an Angels fan will take up the challenge. Even if I wanted to continue tracking Pujols, I'd have access to very few games. Sure, I could subscribe online, but I have zero interest in watching Angels games just to see what Pujols is using.

In a way, it's almost a relief. The Cardinals-era book now has a beginning, middle and end. If Pujols starts using purple B45 bats with green handle tape and hot pink tar next year, someone else can document it. I'll keep researching everything I can about his finite career in St. Louis.

[camarokids]

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You can't say Pujols had nothing to do with it. Pujols caused issues just because he is Pujols. I'm a firm believer that if Wash had chosen to pitch to Albert in game 6 the Rangers would have been home celebrating a championship instead of playing game 7. Instead because he is Albert and Wash stated he wasn't going to let Albert beat him, so no matter the fact that Albert hadn't done squat he walked him to pitch to Berkman who had been on fire and hits better from the left side of the plate.
Yes Freese was the hero but without the aura of Albert he wouldn't have had the chance to do what he did in game 6 and 7.

I do agree. The opposing teams should have pitched to him instead of trying to think too much. Which usually ends up backfiring.