Melky suspended for PED's

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  • trsent
    Banned
    • Nov 2005
    • 3739

    #16
    Re: Melky suspended for PED's

    Originally posted by gingi79
    IMHO I believe this is worse than the McGwire's or Sosa's or Clemens' or even Canseco's. Those guys all did it when seemingly everyone in the sport was doing it and MLB didn't care. Using PED's after that debacle? .

    How stupid do you have to be to take PED's in baseball right now?

    Lastly, owning up to it when you are caught like a punk isn't being "a man", it's macho jock BS from a barely AAA level player who had to cheat to be relevant in MLB. Being "a man" is working your butt off in the gym, training 12 months a year and earning your time in the Show. I'm beginning to see how he was so expendable by the Yanks, the Braves and the Royals.

    I agree 100% with your opening statement - In this day in age, who is stupid enough to take drugs that could cost them and their team? That edge and risk and rewards then getting caught? Lions, tigers and bears, oh my. So stupid.

    Back when Mac and Canseco took drugs we all laughed and knew they were doping and it was accepted at the time. No one through twice about it until years later and then baseball, with pressure from Congress, made it against the rules of the game.

    Now, if you abuse and are properly caught, you are foolish.

    Finally, all the haters of the debate about Ryan Braun - His test results were found to be improperly handled and they are not admissible. I don't know what happened to his sample, but no doubt he was relieved of any wrongdoing. He didn't kill anyone. He didn't allegedly kill anyone. He was accused of failing a test and they threw out the results so who knows what the truth really is.

    I believe he has passed all tests since, so good for him!

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    • gorilla777
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1508

      #17
      Re: Melky suspended for PED's

      Now it seems clear that the Giants knew of the test result and went hard into acquiring Hunter Pence.
      I also read an opinion that Melky cost himself about $60-$70MM in free agency dollars this offseason. Talk about short sighted behavior....


      Ben

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      • camarokids
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 3869

        #18
        Re: Melky suspended for PED's

        Originally posted by gorilla777
        Now it seems clear that the Giants knew of the test result and went hard into acquiring Hunter Pence.
        I also read an opinion that Melky cost himself about $60-$70MM in free agency dollars this offseason. Talk about short sighted behavior....


        Ben
        Great news!!! Glad to hear he screwed himself outta some big duckies!!!
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        • LastingsMilledge85
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1438

          #19
          Re: Melky suspended for PED's

          Maybe now they can stop giving out MVP awards for an exhibition game... One can wish...

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          • nevrdiez34
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 596

            #20
            Re: Melky suspended for PED's

            Not guilty doesn't mean innocent. Braun's urine was tested to the Olympic level and procedure. He wasn't "relieved of any wrong doing" at all. He had a failed test that had THREE numbered tamper proof seals on it and he signed the seals and all associated paperwork. None of the seals were found to be tampered with when delivered to the lab. If you don't think he got off on a technicality, then I really don't know what to tell you. At least Melky had the berries to admit it and not throw innocent people under the bus to save yourself.
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            • BULBUS
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 1123

              #21
              Re: Melky suspended for PED's

              Melky has a very good chance of winning the NL batting title.
              Chris

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              • DJaeger22
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 478

                #22
                Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                Originally posted by BULBUS
                Melky has a very good chance of winning the NL batting title.
                I think he was one AB short of qualifying for the batting title.
                Always looking for anything John Flaherty, Drew Storen and Marcell Ozuna game used.
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                • BULBUS
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1123

                  #23
                  Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                  They would add an 0 for 1 to his avg, not effecting his .346. Definitely would be a travesty.
                  Chris

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                  • frikativ54
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3612

                    #24
                    Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                    Originally posted by BULBUS
                    They would add an 0 for 1 to his avg, not effecting his .346. Definitely would be a travesty.
                    I think that the MLB should adopt a much tougher stance with regard to PEDs. If you fail a drug test, you lose any chance of earning an MVP, ROY, Cy Young, etc., in that year. Additionally, any of the awards you win from that year - clean or while juicing - should be revoked. And the year's stats - up until the time of suspension - should be erased from a player's record. With such policies in place, it would take away even the temptation to cheat.
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                    • coxfan
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 715

                      #25
                      Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                      I'm confused regarding the batting title. I thing it used to be 502 Plate appearances (3.1 x 162) as a minimum, regardless of how many of those PA's were AB's. I think it's true that if someone fell short of the 502, they would add enough hitless AB's to reach the minimum and if it was still the best, they'd award the title. I wonder if this was contemplated in the agreement with the Player's Association regarding PED's?

                      Or am I completely wrong on this?

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                      • David
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2025
                        • 1433

                        #26
                        Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                        An interesting penalty would be to take the wins away from the team-- ala NCAA. You can bet the team and teammates would be more diligent about steroids prevention.

                        I realize they'd never do it.

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                        • marino13
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 551

                          #27
                          Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                          Originally posted by nevrdiez34
                          Not guilty doesn't mean innocent. Braun's urine was tested to the Olympic level and procedure. He wasn't "relieved of any wrong doing" at all. He had a failed test that had THREE numbered tamper proof seals on it and he signed the seals and all associated paperwork. None of the seals were found to be tampered with when delivered to the lab. If you don't think he got off on a technicality, then I really don't know what to tell you. At least Melky had the berries to admit it and not throw innocent people under the bus to save yourself.

                          Amen.

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                          • otismalibu
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1650

                            #28
                            Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                            Greg
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                            • slab0meat
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 526

                              #29
                              Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                              Ridiculous... up the penalty.

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                              • marino13
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 551

                                #30
                                Re: Melky suspended for PED's

                                All of Melky's entourage should get FIRED for this dumb move!

                                If you going to try, at least call Braun's entourage up and pulled the same argument and hope that the arbitrator is the same idiot that MLB hired and then fired after the fiasco!


                                Come on.

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