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  • metsbats
    Moderator
    • Nov 2005
    • 3840

    MLB.com Ichiro post

    Is it me (because I'm Asian) or is insulting to Asians? I usually don't use twitter but I was felt this was disrespectful.
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  • cjw
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1036

    #2
    Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

    To "rake" is to hit a bunch.
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    • camarokids
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 3869

      #3
      Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

      Don't be so quick to be insulted. As said before, it is a term for good hitting.

      Too many get hurt too easily......
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      • STLHAMMER32
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 803

        #4
        Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

        common terminology used among baseball fans

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        • R. C. Walker
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 565

          #5
          Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

          MLB wasn't using "raking" as a term of hitting but in a (un)humorous take on Asian* mispronunciation of English letters.

          But, to be offended or disrespected over a little word is being over sensitive.

          *I'm half Asian.
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          • metsbats
            Moderator
            • Nov 2005
            • 3840

            #6
            Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

            Thanks for the clarification guys.

            I agree with R.C. though this was a subtle knock at Ichiro's lack of command of the English language. Interesting that they use the 'raking' term when referencing Ichiro's milestone hit (how convenient) as I've never see it used when any other player was approaching a milestone hit before.

            I'm over it as there is more to be concerned about in this world today.
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            • truvalue123
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 229

              #7
              Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

              Wow...Ya Gotta be open to learning, not being offended..
              to rake, raking

              verb: To really hit the ball hard, all over the park. When you’re raking, you’re hitting very well.

              (definition from Wikipedia’s Glossary of Baseball)

              I’ll admit it, rake or raking as a baseball term is a term I wasn’t too familiar. However just today, I came across it twice including a tweet from the University of Illinois sport information director in reference to Justin Parr’s continued hitting prowess with his summer team the Rochester Honkers.

              ‘Raking’ is derived of course, from the word for the common garden tool and indicates ‘to sweep or traverse with shot’ only with the baseball bat. Uses of the term ‘rake’ in the baseball realm date as far back to 1990. Boston Globe writer Larry Whiteside wrote of Cecil Fielder:

              “He rakes pitches like that because he’s a low-ball hitter. His power is to right and right-center. They can come inside, but he has the strength like Jim Rice to fight it off. And if they make a mistake…”



              Let’s not forget how interconnected the language of baseball can be. In baseball, the outfield is often colloquially referred to as the garden and the outfielders as gardeners. A ‘rake’ reference is not much of a stretch. To take it bit further, a batter who hits well especially to all fields can graphically be displayed like this…

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              • Wrigley2010
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 996

                #8
                Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                Originally posted by R. C. Walker
                MLB wasn't using "raking" as a term of hitting but in a (un)humorous take on Asian* mispronunciation of English letters.
                How do you know this? I took it the same as everyone else here did. Nothing more than baseball terminology. It's a word we used quite often in college and even today in softball.

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                • R. C. Walker
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 565

                  #9
                  Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                  Simple:

                  "Raking" is a verb like "Baking"

                  No one says "History in the baking." It's "History in/of baking."

                  Should the proper English headline read "History in/of raking"

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                  • metsbats
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3840

                    #10
                    Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                    Show me another instance in recent history where 'raking' was used in this way to reference an MLB players milestone hit.

                    I stand by my assertion (and R.C's) that it was an indirect knock on Ichiro's ability to speak English. We are certainly entitled to take offense if we feel it was offensive. If others don't see it as offensive you are all entitled to your opinion too and I respect that.
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                    • both-teams-played-hard
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2712

                      #11
                      Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                      This was obviously written by some low-level MLB employee who thought he was being clever. I am a white boy with white boy privilege, so I was not offended. I can see why someone other than my self would be offended. No matter, it was a weak attempt to humor.

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                      • sox83cubs84
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 8902

                        #12
                        Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                        I was not aware of the baseball definition of "raking" before this thread got into motion. I don't think it was intentionally offensive, but I can understand it being interpreted that way...it's a pretty tone-deaf comment that could have been presented in other ways.

                        Dave Miedema

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                        • jbean023
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                          • Nov 2011
                          • 599

                          #13
                          Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                          This was definitely not meant to be offensive. If you google baseball raking and go to news there's a ton of articles. Heres an example:



                          Anyone that is on this forum that has played college baseball in the last 10 years has heard or used the term raking. I would say I hear it once every couple days on espn or game feeds from mlb tv.

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                          • camarokids
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 3869

                            #14
                            Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                            Originally posted by jbean023
                            This was definitely not meant to be offensive. If you google baseball raking and go to news there's a ton of articles. Heres an example:



                            Anyone that is on this forum that has played college baseball in the last 10 years has heard or used the term raking. I would say I hear it once every couple days on espn or game feeds from mlb tv.
                            Exactly! Put your big boy pants on, grow some thick skin and live life.
                            Thank you,
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                            • STLHAMMER32
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 803

                              #15
                              Re: MLB.com Ichiro post

                              Play on words for baseball purposes....Headlines typically are catchy and different with creativity and word substitutions that play into baseball terminology. Raking is very commonly used in baseball discussions...if it was used for Derek Jeter it would still make sense and have no other attachment to it...If it was the writers intent to have it mean anything else I guess only he would know.

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