Canseco has info on A-Rod

[richpick]

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I can tell you all what Canseco is going to say about AROD has nothing to do with steroids. I cant go into this any further but trust me on this one. AROD is clean.

Unless you were around Arod 24-7 how can you be certain that Arod is clean. Even if you were in a MLB clubhouse Arod could have taken steroids somewhere outside of the MLB clubhouse?

[3arod13]

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For myself, if this could be true, it would truly knock the wind out of me as an Arod fan and collector. Arod has always been known as being obsessed with working out, and I always believed his physical shape, at least, was from working out so much. He has alwasy put up good numbers, so it's not like I could find an all of a sudden increase in his numbers over the years. Could it be possible? Sure.

Nobody has been proven guilty of steriod use. However, just like McGwire not speaking (could show guilt), Sosa using an interpreter (give me a break), etc., this discussion will never end because of players actions like this.

I knew someone very close to Juan Gonzalez and believe his steriod use to be true. However, I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure myself. But I'm confident in the information I received.

We all know steriod use was/is happening. However, there's been no proof.

As far as Jose Canseco goes, and I'll throw in Brian Bosworth who talked about drug use within the team AFTER LEAVING college, his sole purpose was to payback MLB (says he was blackballed from playing again) and to make money. That's the bottom line. He's not a good guy and I don't have any respect for him. Including his numbers, as he admitted to using steroids, SO THERE IS YOUR PROVEN GUILTY PLAYER!

It kills me when I hear people praise Jose for doing what he did. I would have praised him if he did this during his playing days, with the sole purpose of cleaning up baseball.

Regards, Tony

[kingjammy24]

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if the information is true, then the motives are irrelevant.
similarly, if the information is true, then whether or not you'd share a beer with canseco is also irrelevant.

a part of me wonders what the motives are of people who condemn the information before hearing it. perhaps they've got a lot of money tied up in arod items and are weeping at the possibility of it going the route bonds memorabilia has gone.

the funny thing about canseco and his book is that none of the players he mentioned ever sued him for libel. it's pretty strange that he publically and explicitly wrote that specific individuals committed felonies and although they could well afford top-notch legal representation, not a single one of them sued canseco in an effort to protect their name and image from which they derived substantial revenue.

rudy.

[byergo]

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Canseco will go down in history as one of the biggest figures in baseball history. Love him or hate him.

He was a tremendous, exciting player who blended breathtaking speed and power and was on the verge of being a Hall of Famer, and he more than any other individual blew the steroid scandal wide open.

[3arod13]

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Canseco will go down in history as one of the biggest figures in baseball history. Love him or hate him.

He was a tremendous, exciting player who blended breathtaking speed and power and was on the verge of being a Hall of Famer, and he more than any other individual blew the steroid scandal wide open.

Breathtaking speed (steroids)
Power (steriods)

What type player would Jose have been if he didn't use steroids?

Blew the steroid scandal wide open (if you recall, Jose admitted to not only using steroids, but educating many players of how to use steroids, supplying them info on how to obtain them, and even assisting them in taking them)

How people can praise Jose Canseco is beyond me.

[reed1216]

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kingjammy- I actually agree with some of what you're saying. I would be disappointed if ARod has been using illegal substances. My feelings would be based as much on the fact that I have been pulling for him for a long time, as much as it would be because I own one of his jerseys. I don't think that's a bad thing to admit.

On the flip side, I don't think I am condemning anything. In fact, Canseco hasn't accused ARod of anything yet. Nor has been either brought forth any information to condemn or suggested what this information would pertain to. He merely stated that he had SOMETHING on him. I would suggest that those that are already condemning ARod for steroid use, based on what Canseco has said to date might want to reserve judgement until there is something to be judged.

[3arod13]

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kingjammy- I actually agree with some of what you're saying. I would be disappointed if ARod has been using illegal substances. My feelings would be based as much on the fact that I have been pulling for him for a long time, as much as it would be because I own one of his jerseys. I don't think that's a bad thing to admit.

You're right. It's not a bad thing that finding out your favorite player/hero did something wrong and that it would not only affect your outlook about that player, but also affect your collectibles that you invested your hard earned money in. Because of Arod's performance, his collectibles demand high dollars. So yes, both sides of the fence matter.

For me, what impresses me about Arod is he 's a hardworking player, always trying to approve his strength and ability, and whose power and performance is of his own natural ability. To find that he was taking any kind of drug to enhance that performance, would bother me. To find that his ability wasn't all natural, again, would just bother me.

[3arod13]

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Sorry, improve his strength