Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

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  • BoneRubbedBat
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 484

    Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

    Exceptional use on this 1989 McGwire gamer. Bat is uncracked. Autographed in white marker. Also looks like whoever got the bat autographed primed the white pen on the knob. The knob reads "256B 286 09". Rare black bat from the A's 1989 World Series championship year. Let me know if anyone needs more info or photos. $1100 shipped.
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    Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.
  • BoneRubbedBat
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 484

    #2
    Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

    more photos.
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    Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.

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    • cjmedina1
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 345

      #3
      Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

      Marcus
      check you email.Thanks
      Carlie Medina III
      carliemedinaiii@sbcglobal.net

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      • hblakewolf
        Banned
        • Nov 2005
        • 1870

        #4
        Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

        Forum readers/Marcus-
        I'm not that well versed in bats, however, I am always seeking quality McGwire game used items and at first glance, this strikes me as an extremely rare bat. After seeing this initial post of the bat, I did quite a bit of "homework" and searched my collection of McGwire photos from 1989-1991, and can't locate a single photo of McGwire ever using a black Rawlings bat. Natural finish-you bet! What I find interesting is that the bat also has a LOA from MEARS grading it an 8 and specifically noting they are not aware of him using a black bat, either. With this said, how can a LOA be written, and likewise, receive a grade of 8? If there is no proof of him ever using such a bat, how can any LOA be issued claiming it is a McGwire gamer?

        Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would be like having a pair of Michael Jordan Pumas with a MEARS LOA, giving them an 8 grade, however, noting that they are not aware of Jordan wearing Pumas, and likewise, no photo evidence is available.

        Unless I'm missing something, how can this be attributed to McGwire ever swinging it or receive a MEARS grade of 8?

        Any insight is appreciated.

        Howard Wolf
        hblakewolf@patmedia.net

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        • whatupyos
          Banned
          • Dec 2005
          • 703

          #5
          Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

          Howard,
          How's it going? I have an old baseball card, and unfortunately I'm at work now, but he had a black bat that he was using. It apprears to be a Rawlings because of the white ring, however the card with him using the bat doesnt show a name, its the back side of the bat, so I dont know if its his or he borrowed it. Usually he uses the natural finish but who knows...I'd be curious to know what others think.

          Aaron

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          • Birdbats
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 1439

            #6
            Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

            Howard, I do recall seeing a black Rawlings Mac bat for sale at the Cardinals Winter Warmup a few years back -- interestingly, it had a red band. I was told it was made for Mark to try, but he never did. I never saw him with a black bat in his hands during his Cardinals tenure -- can't speak for his time in Oakland.

            Your point about the MEARS grade is right on. Good analogy with the Jordan shoes. Can believe anything this out of the ordinary could grade an 8 without some kind of photo or video to support it.

            Jeff
            Birdbats: Your source for St. Louis Cardinals game-used bats
            Jeff Scott
            birdbats@charter.net
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            • cjmedina1
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 345

              #7
              Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

              Howard
              It was good to chat with you.

              As for the bat,There is a pic of Mcgwire having a black bat in his hands.Its a 1989 all star card.Not sure if thats a shot from the allstar game or not.I can't post any pics right now(I'm at work not working )But when I get home I will be glad to post pics tonight if anyone doesn't beat me to it.The key question I have is this
              1.In a allstar game does the Allstar players use home jerseys or away?
              Not saying this is a allstar bat.Its info for me to know Thanks Now I have to go to work LOL

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              • BoneRubbedBat
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2005
                • 484

                #8
                Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

                Here is the photo.
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                Always looking for vintage game used bats of Houston Buffs and Colt .45's players.

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                • hblakewolf
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1870

                  #9
                  Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

                  Carlie-
                  Good speaking with you earlier today, and thank you so much for providing me with the card/photo evidence of McGwire swinging a black Rawlings bat in 1989.

                  I still find it interesting that MEARS wrote a LOA grade 8 letter based on........what??????

                  Thanks again,
                  Howard Wolf
                  hblakewolf@patmedia.net

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                  • sportscentury
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2008

                    #10
                    Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

                    Originally posted by BoneRubbedBat
                    Here is the photo.
                    Marcus,

                    You always have top quality items. Also, thanks for the photo. I have tons of Mac photos and couldn't find one of him using any kind of black bat ... but this card is great (I actually saved the photo for future reference). This has to be one of the rarer Mac bats out there.

                    This thread reminds me of the Ryan/Rawlings jersey thread ... the photos that are shared on this forum are just fantastic at times.

                    Reid
                    Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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                    • cjmedina1
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 345

                      #11
                      Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

                      Reid
                      Thats what makes this site so great.We all share information no matter how simple or hard it is to answer a question Thats why I will always be a member here.

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                      • Birdbats
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 1439

                        #12
                        Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

                        Great find on the photo/card of Mac using a black bat with Oakland!

                        I've learned by watching Albert Pujols that unless you see every at-bat, things can sneak by that you might not believe otherwise. I never would have conceded that Pujols used a Gwynn-finished BWP (1 plate appearance) or an Easton with a black handle and brown barrel (2 plate appearances) unless I'd seen it for myself. Don't know if those were actually his models, but he did use them.

                        That said, I still think a grade of 8 seems high for such an unusual bat unless the provenance is perfect (maybe MEARS has more info than meets the eye). For example, if this was a Gwynn-finished Easton Pujols bat being evaluated -- knowing he used one during just 2 plate appearances (of 700 in 2005) -- I'd be skeptical that the bat being evaluated and the bat that was used were one in the same. Very long odds.

                        Without seeing the MEARS worksheet, I wonder if any points were deducted for the McGwire bat not matching Mac's typical characteristics. They deduct points if other characteristics aren't consistent with the player's known characteristics (like pine tar, scoring, etc.). On the other hand, should points be added if something is rare, like a model that was ordered only once? Or is that done already, since points are added if a bat is pinpointed to factory records? I'm debating myself... feel free to jump in.

                        Whatever the grade, this Mac bat is certainly rare and would be a nice addition to a McGwire collection.

                        Jeff
                        Birdbats: Your source for St. Louis Cardinals game-used bats
                        Jeff Scott
                        birdbats@charter.net
                        http://www.birdbats.com

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                        • cjmedina1
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 345

                          #13
                          Re: Mark McGwire 1989 game used and autographed bat - MEARS graded 8

                          Jeff
                          I have to say you have a cool web site and I really like the article on Mcgwire bats.I'm noy sure on the grading of the bats,Maybe some of our experts give give some insight
                          Carlie Medina III
                          carliemedinaiii@sbcglobal.net

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