Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

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  • beachpetrol
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 201

    #16
    Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

    Looks like tella27 is nothing but trouble anyway:



    For someone who claims to be a "veteran" on this website, he sure does know how to ruin his reputation not only here on GameUsed Universe, but in the sports memorabilia community, in general.

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    • tella27
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 728

      #17
      Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

      Originally posted by beachpetrol
      Looks like tella27 is nothing but trouble anyway:



      For someone who claims to be a "veteran" on this website, he sure does know how to ruin his reputation not only here on GameUsed Universe, but in the sports memorabilia community, in general.
      I've done business with MANY members of this forum and most I've done multiple deals with. The people that do business with me know that I'm a solid person to work with.

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      • danesei@yahoo.com
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 1018

        #18
        Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

        Originally posted by tella27
        I've done business with MANY members of this forum and most I've done multiple deals with. The people that do business with me know that I'm a solid person to work with.
        I hope a few of those "many" members are available to confirm that. It still doesn't make sense why you wouldn't have defended yourself on the other site. It wouldn't have taken much to prove that the item was never delivered (a USPS tracking number, for starters). To the final statement in your post, it would seem that the "Jmorrill" person did business with you and wouldn't concur with the statement.

        Also, now that it's been mentioned, the others posting that this isn't a game issued glove are likely correct. Those have serial numbers that are traceable directly to each player.

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        • tella27
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 728

          #19
          Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

          Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
          I hope a few of those "many" members are available to confirm that. It still doesn't make sense why you wouldn't have defended yourself on the other site. It wouldn't have taken much to prove that the item was never delivered (a USPS tracking number, for starters). To the final statement in your post, it would seem that the "Jmorrill" person did business with you and wouldn't concur with the statement.

          Also, now that it's been mentioned, the others posting that this isn't a game issued glove are likely correct. Those have serial numbers that are traceable directly to each player.
          First off guy you've been a member of this forum for like 5 minutes you don't know me or any of the deals I've done. As for tracking on a package I have no clue what you are talking about. And just to be clear I don't owe you a list of people I've done business with and don't need them to post to prove you wrong. I've been on here since 2011 and done a lot of deals. If I had screwed anyone over or made bad deals I wouldn't be on here. You seem to be bitter that I declined your $500 offer to purchase even though my post CLEARLY said I had no interest in selling and only wanted to trade.

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          • tella27
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 728

            #20
            Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

            Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
            I hope a few of those "many" members are available to confirm that. It still doesn't make sense why you wouldn't have defended yourself on the other site. It wouldn't have taken much to prove that the item was never delivered (a USPS tracking number, for starters). To the final statement in your post, it would seem that the "Jmorrill" person did business with you and wouldn't concur with the statement.

            Also, now that it's been mentioned, the others posting that this isn't a game issued glove are likely correct. Those have serial numbers that are traceable directly to each player.
            Jmorrill - I remember I bought a glove from him.. A glove that didn't arrive at my building because he didn't send it to the correct address. This was something that was investigated by Paypal and found in my favor and my money refunded. Once it was discovered that the package was sitting at the PO I went there and picked it up. I then REPAID jmorrill - this after I was accused by him to have had the package already - even though there was never a signature or delivery showing for the package. I didn't do anything wrong and in fact I went above and beyond by going to the PO to get the package AND repaid the money not 30 minutes after I picked it up. Jmorrill is on this forum - ask him if he was paid for the glove after i went and got it.

            Again new guy you need to get your facts right

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            • danesei@yahoo.com
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 1018

              #21
              Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

              Originally posted by tella27
              First off guy you've been a member of this forum for like 5 minutes you don't know me or any of the deals I've done. As for tracking on a package I have no clue what you are talking about. And just to be clear I don't owe you a list of people I've done business with and don't need them to post to prove you wrong. I've been on here since 2011 and done a lot of deals. If I had screwed anyone over or made bad deals I wouldn't be on here. You seem to be bitter that I declined your $500 offer to purchase even though my post CLEARLY said I had no interest in selling and only wanted to trade.
              I never asked you for a list of who you did business with. I said it'd be nice if those members posted in the thread. As for Jmorrill, you should have him update that thread on the other site if the transaction has been reconciled as you state.

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              • tella27
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 728

                #22
                Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
                I never asked you for a list of who you did business with. I said it'd be nice if those members posted in the thread. As for Jmorrill, you should have him update that thread on the other site if the transaction has been reconciled as you state.
                I don't need to do anything new guy - stop posting on my threads. I've reported your other post to the mods - maybe you should read the rules about highjacking threads..

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                • danesei@yahoo.com
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 1018

                  #23
                  Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                  I'm not hijacking anything. You're not selling anything.

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                  • tella27
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 728

                    #24
                    Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                    Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
                    I'm not hijacking anything. You're not selling anything.

                    http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...73&postcount=2
                    Here are 2 rules that you forgot to read - these apply also to the post you made on my Wanted thread.

                    You may dispute opinions and facts, but do so with facts and not by taking it to a personal level. This forum is intended to operate in a positive environment. Please help us achieve that goal. (Where are your facts?)

                    No Trolling or Baiting. You will not post any topic that disrupts the peace and harmony of this forum. (I declined your offer and now you're trolling this thread and my other thread in the Wanted section. Read ALL the rules new guy)

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                    • danesei@yahoo.com
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 1018

                      #25
                      Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                      Originally posted by tella27
                      You may dispute opinions and facts, but do so with facts and not by taking it to a personal level. This forum is intended to operate in a positive environment. Please help us achieve that goal. (Where are your facts?)

                      No Trolling or Baiting. You will not post any topic that disrupts the peace and harmony of this forum. (I declined your offer and now you're trolling this thread and my other thread in the Wanted section. Read ALL the rules new guy)
                      I did nothing to take this to a personal level. The facts are stated:

                      Someone else posted a thread where you supposedly purchased an item and claimed it never arrived, even though the Postal Service noted it as being delivered. I merely stated that it would be sensible to follow-up on that thread. You said that things were settled with the seller. I said you should have the seller clarify that in the thread.

                      I never baited nor trolled in any way. I stated facts, not opinions. You insist on calling me "guy" and "new guy" in a very condescending manner. If anything, you are the one taking things to a personal level.

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                      • johnsontravis@ymail.com
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 479

                        #26
                        Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                        Calling him "new guy" is pretty ridiculous. Also who cares how long he has been a member. He could have 200x the knowledge of you and more transactions with members than you. Heck he may have read this board for the past decade for all you know.

                        Also people should stop making comments without anything to back it up. I see a lot of comments questioning the authenticity of the glove and nothing about why it may not be game issued.

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                        • johnsontravis@ymail.com
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 479

                          #27
                          Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                          Looking at pictures I'd have to say it was ordered with no intent to use though. It looks to be in pristine condition just like it left the factory. Anyone who has ever tried to break in a catchers mitt knows it is a pretty tideous project. Any back-up glove would have already been broken in before any emergency arose.

                          Problem is "Game Issued" is a pretty bland phrase with so many definitions. Also what is the definition of "game model"? I'd be pretty concerned if a company like Steiner isn't using the "game issued" phrase...I'd expect that out of Steiner.

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                          • tella27
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 728

                            #28
                            Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                            Originally posted by johnsontravis@ymail.com
                            Looking at pictures I'd have to say it was ordered with no intent to use though. It looks to be in pristine condition just like it left the factory. Anyone who has ever tried to break in a catchers mitt knows it is a pretty tideous project. Any back-up glove would have already been broken in before any emergency arose.

                            Problem is "Game Issued" is a pretty bland phrase with so many definitions. Also what is the definition of "game model"? I'd be pretty concerned if a company like Steiner isn't using the "game issued" phrase...I'd expect that out of Steiner.
                            Steiner doesn't put anything on certs except "game model" unless they are authenticating the item. When they authenticate the signature they write game model. This can be verified by asking Brandon at Steiner - I sent in my Pierce rookie game used jersey to be signed and it's signed and inscribed Game Used but they put on the cert "Game Model" with all the jersey info and also with "Game Used" inscription. Brandon told me directly that's the reason. The glove is Wieters custom model gold glove with his nickname stitched onto it. Donated to Jeter for his charity auction. There is NO difference in this glove and the one used in games. They are all ordered the same - Wieters (like any other player) orders multiple gloves prior to the start of ST. To say that this glove was ordered separate or only to be signed and donated is PURLEY opinion. There is no difference between a game issued player exclusive item and game model player exclusive. It's like calling a issued jersey only a game model..

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                            • johnsontravis@ymail.com
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 479

                              #29
                              Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                              Originally posted by tella27
                              Steiner doesn't put anything on certs except "game model" unless they are authenticating the item. When they authenticate the signature they write game model. This can be verified by asking Brandon at Steiner - I sent in my Pierce rookie game used jersey to be signed and it's signed and inscribed Game Used but they put on the cert "Game Model" with all the jersey info and also with "Game Used" inscription. Brandon told me directly that's the reason. The glove is Wieters custom model gold glove with his nickname stitched onto it. Donated to Jeter for his charity auction. There is NO difference in this glove and the one used in games. They are all ordered the same - Wieters (like any other player) orders multiple gloves prior to the start of ST. To say that this glove was ordered separate or only to be signed and donated is PURLEY opinion. There is no difference between a game issued player exclusive item and game model player exclusive. It's like calling a issued jersey only a game model..
                              So really it comes down to one mans opinion. Obviously made to his specifications and could be considered Wieters issued/player issued.

                              As far as game issued I think it really goes to someone's opinion. To me I wouldn't consider it game issued as it isn't ready for a game. There is no way it was ever "Hey I might have to use this today."...it simply isn't ready to be used, it is incomplete not broken in.

                              However I wouldn't argue if you considered it game issued if you thought Wieters got it at the start of ST with the possible intent of using it at some point in the season if need be.

                              Regardless whoever got it at the original price of <$300 got a bargain and its a pretty cool piece. Since getting a game used Gold Glove probably will never happen, settling for the next best thing isn't too bad...and I am a massive catchers mitt fan.

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                              • beachpetrol
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 201

                                #30
                                Re: Matt Wieters signed game issued GG catchers mitt

                                Originally posted by tella27
                                I've done business with MANY members of this forum and most I've done multiple deals with. The people that do business with me know that I'm a solid person to work with.
                                Doesn't matter that you have done transcations with "many" members. You seem to want to ignore the fact that you CLEARLY intended to commit fraud with Jmorrill , and on a high end item like the ones you would like to trade for here on GUU. Add to the fact your condescending attitudes towards other on this forum, doesn't make for good business.

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