Looking for Braves

[MVP]

Re: Looking for Braves

You can check every photo of Francoeur of every game that he played in 2005. He never wore a jersey with block lettering FRANCOEUR on the back. You can check the sports illustrated that had photos of his first home game in atlanta....all with arched lettering. It is the August 29, 2005 issue. here is the cover:

[MVP]

Re: Looking for Braves

I don't think you would find anyone on this forum who would buy a 2005 jersey of chipper, andruw or jeff with block nameplates for $2500 each. maybe as a replica but not as a game worn jersey.

[kylehess10]

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I realize you might've gotten those jerseys from the team. And I'm not saying they are or aren't real, nor am I trying to start an argument. But I wouldn't trust the Braves wholeheartedly with regard to their COAs. I once bought two replica jerseys from them (no number, name or year tag), yet I still received two COAs stating the jerseys were game worn.

I went to the Braves Clubhouse Store a week ago and I think I saw the same thing. They have these Braves jersey's for $50 each and they look brand new but the price tag says "game worn jersey $50". They have no number,no nameplate,but a 2000 All Star Game patch. Also there is no evidence that a number and nameplate were ever removed

[2dales1number3]

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Boy, this thread turned into well, not what I was expecting. But if those players didnt wear block lettering in 05 and your 05s have block lettering, then it sounds like someone screwed up somewhere. But thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Anyway SkipCarey can I get your email? I also collect helmets.

[kylehess10]

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woah, I guess you guys are right. I know radtke is a huge sports memorabilia company but I guess the jersey really isn't game worn. Every single picture I found of Francoeur from last year has arched lettering on his jersey (btw-big thanks to MVP for starting all of this, I'm a big Braves fan and I'm starting to buy Braves game worn jerseys for my collection and now knowing that they had different lettering last year that helps me out a lot for in the future when I buy jerseys from that year)

[skipcareyisfat]

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Boy, this thread turned into well, not what I was expecting. But if those players didnt wear block lettering in 05 and your 05s have block lettering, then it sounds like someone screwed up somewhere. But thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Anyway SkipCarey can I get your email? I also collect helmets.

2dales, I'm at jctaylor101@yahoo.com.

Jason

[indyred]

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great information and research here......one of reason why this forum is great.

[radtke]

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MVP,

I hope you know that you are insinuating that the Braves sell FAKE game worn jerseys. Considering I purchased all three jerseys at the same time the Francouer (White), C. Jones (Red), and A. Jones (Red) the Atlanta Braves have a 100% hit rate of selling fakes. Now, that leads me to believe that if I bought 3 jerseys and all three are not game worn then all the jerseys that were sold to the public are not really game worn. Then the Atlanta Braves can be sued for fraudulent advertising and consumer fraud. I will be writing a letter to the Atlanta Braves about this issue and also give them this website for reference. You have to understand that this is a serious issue, because people are spending thousands of dollars under a false pretense that these are really game worn.

[indyred]

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Radtke....any chance you could post pictures of there coa and the front of the jerseys. Just to see what the tagging looks like. I'd ask the Braves to show you a game photo or a game tape video with that style lettering on the 05 jersey......for red alternate games, they were only used on Sunday home games, around 13 games.....so not as many to research...

[kylehess10]

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MVP,

I hope you know that you are insinuating that the Braves sell FAKE game worn jerseys. Considering I purchased all three jerseys at the same time the Francouer (White), C. Jones (Red), and A. Jones (Red) the Atlanta Braves have a 100% hit rate of selling fakes. Now, that leads me to believe that if I bought 3 jerseys and all three are not game worn then all the jerseys that were sold to the public are not really game worn. Then the Atlanta Braves can be sued for fraudulent advertising and consumer fraud. I will be writing a letter to the Atlanta Braves about this issue and also give them this website for reference. You have to understand that this is a serious issue, because people are spending thousands of dollars under a false pretense that these are really game worn.

yes, I think you should write a letter to the Braves about this issue. I spent about an hour last night looking through ever site I could possible look at and all of them have arched letter, and not 1 with block lettering. The only jersey that I found with block lettering was a pic of Francoeur during BP and that's it but all Road,Home,and Alternate jerseys had arched lettering. To tell you the truth, I really couldn't trust the Braves for game used

[sportscentury]

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SkipCarey no I apologize I started building the site myself I tried doing previously with a no name site builder and it was pretty easy. So when me and my partners decided to open up our own web site me figuring all is same voluneteered to build the site using Yahoo Site Builder which reads like Stereo Instructions. So I got a bit lax with trying to figure out how to do and decided I will have Professional come in and help me with it, but I have been so busy in other areas of my life I haven't had the chance to do that either.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO APOLOGIZE TO ANY AND ALL MEMBERS WHO HAVE VISITED MY SITE AND WEREN'T ABLE TO VIEW ANYMORE THEN A PRE-WEBSITE.

I will be on top of this shortly and have it up and running.
I will update everyone when the site is up and would really prefer your feedback as to how to make it more attractive, easy to use, and if anything should be added.

Jason,

Who are your partners?

Reid

[sportscentury]

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MVP,

I hope you know that you are insinuating that the Braves sell FAKE game worn jerseys. Considering I purchased all three jerseys at the same time the Francouer (White), C. Jones (Red), and A. Jones (Red) the Atlanta Braves have a 100% hit rate of selling fakes. Now, that leads me to believe that if I bought 3 jerseys and all three are not game worn then all the jerseys that were sold to the public are not really game worn. Then the Atlanta Braves can be sued for fraudulent advertising and consumer fraud. I will be writing a letter to the Atlanta Braves about this issue and also give them this website for reference. You have to understand that this is a serious issue, because people are spending thousands of dollars under a false pretense that these are really game worn.

Rick,

In all fairness, MVP never said anything about fraud. Fraud requires intent to deceive. Sometimes dealers, teams, players, etc., make mistakes. I've purchased items from teams that have been advertised as game used but were not, in fact, game used. I have also purchased items from teams that were indeed game used but were not advertised as such. The team's representation of an item as game used does not make an item game used. I'm not passing judgment on your jerseys at all. I've purchased several game worn/signed jerseys from the Braves over the years and they have all been perfect (MLB hologram, BF-BA marker on tag, correct tagging, clear game wear, signatures, etc.), so clearly the Braves are not in the practice of selling only non-game-worn jerseys (not to mention all of the high end items that Atlanta Sports Collectibles/Barry Sanders has purchased directly from the Braves over the years).

I don't think MVP was suggesting that the Braves acted fraudulently. I think he was sharing his research in support of his belief that the jerseys are not game worn. If he did this in an unjust or reckless manner, I'd be the first to say so, but I think he has provided information in an ethical manner that is in line with GUF rules and policies. Again, this is not to pass judgment on your jerseys. I wish you luck with them and with your communications with the Braves. Please share an update with us once you have one.

Reid

[Eric]

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The Braves jerseys on Radke Sports have the incorrect font on the nameplates. The Braves did not use the block font in 2005.

-Henry

MVP
Please email me immediately regarding your account.
Thank you
Eric
ecky3@aol.com

[radtke]

Update

Hello Everyone,

We have taken off the jerseys that were considered game used by the Atlanta Braves. We do not want to sell jerseys that could be fake and are in dispute. Until we resolve this issue with the team, I would like to thank some of the people on this board for pointing this out. What is the tragic part of this issue is that you cannot trust a team as a source for game used jerseys. Also, we have one other Francoeur Gamer from his rookie year that we will post on the website. We assumed both were the same style (fonts and nameplates). So we only put one one to sell. After comparing the 2 jerseys, you can definetly see the difference in the fonts on the back. We also have a McCann Road Jersey (05) from the same year and it has the correct fonts as well. MVP, I only disputed what you were saying because it is hard to imagine that the Braves would sell jerseys at the price we paid for them, only to find out these guys probably never wore them. Thanks again and we will be putting the RIGHT Francoeur up soon!

[sportscentury]

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Rick,

I hope GUF readers recognize the professionalism with which you have handled this issue. Best of luck with the jerseys and please do give us an update as to your communications with the Braves. Glad to see you posting on GUF.

Best,
Reid