AMI Dan Marino

[ivo610]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

As a rather new member I have learned more off this thread on NFL jerseys than any of the other ones I have come across. When I first came to this board I had a pretty good level of trust with auction houses and what they offer, now not at all.

[lund6771]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

interesting...

[ducksdukes]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

Malinconico was the equipment manager during the 1994 season. He resigned/terminated from the Dolphins after the 1994 season. It is my understanding that there were some alleged "discrepancies" about how game used equipment, including Marino items were being handled.

[lund6771]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

Rudy

any word from the Dolphins on the mystery Equipment manager?


And Dave....what was the outcome from AMI on this?

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

the current equipment manager for the dolphins has been with the dolphins equipment staff for the past 14 yrs. that goes back far enough for him to remember a joe malinconico. i'll send him an inquiry as well as a copy of the AMI letter and see what he says. will report back when i hear back.

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

the auction just ended. i'm guessing it's possible that AMI has not paid the consigner yet. (by some accounts, it may be months before that
happens). in an ideal world, AMI would examine the substantial evidence presented in this thread and possibly halt the transfer of the jersey and any funds until they've reached a conclusive verdict. this strikes me as the ethical, responsible thing to do. apparently video evidence has determined it's not the jersey.

i admit to having a small fascination with the letter. tony egues can easily be googled as can bob monica. there are several articles about them all over the internet. according to the dolphins website ( http://www.miamidolphins.com/newsite...in_egues_t.asp )

Egues "..was named as assistant equipment manager in 1994 and then was promoted to head equipment manager prior to the start of the 1995 season."

i'm guessing then that in 1994 bob monica was the equipment manager and tony egues was the assistant. in 1995, egues was made head equipment manager.

despite the fact that egues, monica, and catello are all over the internet, there isn't a single blurb anywhere about anyone named joe malinconico.

keep in mind that the AMI letter was supposedly written in Nov 1994. in the letter, malinconico states that he was the "Equipment Manager of the Miami Dolphins during the 1994-95 season [this might be news to Bob Monica]. I was fully responsible for the handling of all game equipment."
the letter is then signed "Joe Malinconico, Miami Dolphins Equipment Manager". note that malinconico says he was fully responsible and doesn't say he was an assistant.

if it can be determined that noone under the name "joe malinconico" was ever employed by the miami dolphins in the equipment department, then the letter is also complete sham. it seems finding out this info would be even easier than locating tapes of the '94 throwback game. if the letter ends up being bogus, then it's apparent that noone at AMI even bothered to verify the letter and just took the thing at face value, as if it's difficult to obtain team letterhead and write up some nonsense. i will try to contact the dolphins to verify the employment of "joe malinconico" as equipment manager during the 94/95 season. i'm genuinely interested in whether AMI was completely scammed by a bogus letter.

rudy.

[lund6771]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

In Post #56, I stated that I did not want to waste $50 proving that AMI put another fake jersey in the market because I felt that no good would become of it...

Well a few buttons were pushed so I did go out and get the videos and they 100% proved that Marino did not wear the jersey that AMI sold...

Dr. P has also spent a lot of time rounding up pictures from Pat Catello who has both jerseys...this was also verified by the Dolphins themselves...

There is also now a strong possibility that the LOA was a complete sham as well


So now the question is...where is all of this headed?

Why has there been no response from someone within AMI on this?...Dave O' Brien is always quick to chime in with erratic posts...where did he go?...he's not on vacation because he's posting on other threads...Do they think that by being silent, that the wind will blow this away?

For the record...this thread will not go away unless the administrators lock it up...to much effort has been put in to let this thread fade away

Is this considered fraud since there has been no recourse?...should this info be sent to someone?

[ducksdukes]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

I sent the request to all experts regarding Dolphins equipment managers.

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

funny but it seems someone recently asked this question:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Miami-Dolphins-283/DOLPHIN-EQUIPMENT-MANAGERS.htm

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Expert: Eran - dolphinsinfo.com
Date: 10/28/2007
Subject: DOLPHIN EQUIPMENT MANAGERS

Question
Was Joe Malinconico an equipment manager or an assistant equipment manager for the Dolphins in either 1994 or 1995 ? Thanks

Answer
Hi Kevin
The Dolphins list Tony Egues as the team's equipment manager for 1995 and Bob Monica as team's equipment manager for 1994. I don't have the listing for assistants to the equipment manager in 1994 and 1995.

Eran
http://www.dolphinsinfo.com
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in the letter, joe calls himself the "equipment manager", not an assistant.

the only joe malinconico i've found is a writer for the new jersey star ledger:

http://www.nj.com/newarkguide/index.ssf/2007/10/mass_transit_a_big_hit_with_pr.html

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

can anyone ask pat catello or the dolphins if they've ever heard of joe malinconico ? when was catello the equipment manager?

i'd like to know if the letter is fishy (no pun intended).

rudy.

[mvandor]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

Some pretty nice detective work done in this thread. We have some persistent guys here, don't we?

[lund6771]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

Dave...

your attempts of throwing out smoke screans are not working so quit trying to send this thread into a different direction

The jersey that AMI has put into the market is fake...

[lund6771]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

Dr. P...

Interesting pictures...another difference between Pat's jerseys and the phony AMI is the Wilson tag in the collar...I remember when Wilson switched from the larger Prestige tag to the smaller W tag...

I have never seen the Prestige tag in the collar...can you imagine how uncomfortable it would be on the back of your neck with that big tag rubbing on you?

Anyone from AMI care to comment?

[CollectGU]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

Hello Dave,

I think what is being referenced in the quote above is the forum rule about no topic changing. This thread is intended to discuss the Marino jersey. If you would like to discuss the Stoyanovich jersey please feel free to start another thread about it. Otherwise, please make sure posts on this thread relate to the Marino jersey.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Sincerely,
Chris

Chris,

The Stoyanovich jersey is absolutlely relevant to this thread as it was used as a reference point in the thread for proper NOB fonts for these jerseys. Don't you think it relevant to verify the jersey being used a reference point if you have that capability and if you are going to use the jersey as a reference. If this is where it was referenced, I don't see how it isn't relevant to this thread....

Dave

[DR.P]

Re: AMI Dan Marino

I've got the photos!! I just received the photos of the actual Throwback jerseys worn in the Vikings game and the Jets game from Pat Catello's agent. I know I was a bit of a pain in the neck pursuing them, but thanks so much Alice, and of course Pat, for letting us view these, as it is truly appreciated! I am not the best at working with computer photos, but I will do my best to post these.
I was given some information as well... Both of the Throwback jerseys are unwashed. The Vikings game was worn on Turf, so there is obviously no major dirt stains, however the most noticeable marks are a fold type mark on the back #1 and a turf/helmet burn on the front #1. These can be seen in the game film. I was also told there are some Viking remnants visible on this shirt as well. The Jets jersey still has all the dirt marks throughout the jersey. I viewed the Vikings jersey at the Miami Dolphins stadium and remembered the fold mark. This is the ONLY year Marino ever wore a throwback style jersey. They also sent a photo of the pants Marino wore. As far as I am concerned, this issue has been put to rest! I am interested to hear if Pat mentions this on his radio show tonight.