Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

[suave1477]

Hello Members,

By you now you know I am the biggest Strawberry Game Used collector and if you didn't now you know. So when I saw this item pop upmy jaw dropped and first thing came to mind was I got to have this and what can I sell to get this lol lol. Is selling members of my family illegal in the U.S.????? But seriously I was pondering letting go some serious pieces for this.

I am glad I didn't

I spoke with Darryl tonight and he told me he still has his 99 ring and would never let it go. He said the one on Lelands has to be a duplicate because he still has his.

http://www.lelands.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=93287

[platinum1]

Re: Darryk Strawberry World Series Ring NOT THE REAL THING!!!

Did you or Darryl contact Lelands about it?

[suave1477]

Re: Darryk Strawberry World Series Ring NOT THE REAL THING!!!

I just spoke to Darryl about an hour ago, haven't had the chance.

[sammy]

Re: Darryk Strawberry World Series Ring NOT THE REAL THING!!!

As quoted in the Leland's auction ad:

The ring comes with a hand written letter signed by Strawberry, an LOA on Yankees stationery.

Something smells once again.

[hblakewolf]

Re: Darryk Strawberry World Series Ring NOT THE REAL THING!!!

Hello Members,

By you now you know I am the biggest Strawberry Game Used collector and if you didn't now you know. So when I saw this item pop upmy jaw dropped and first thing came to mind was I got to have this and what can I sell to get this lol lol. Is selling members of my family illegal in the U.S.????? But seriously I was pondering letting go some serious pieces for this.

I am glad I didn't

I spoke with Darryl tonight and he told me he still has his 99 ring and would never let it go. He said the one on Lelands has to be a duplicate because he still has his.

http://www.lelands.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=93287

Suave-
Next ime you speak with Strawberry, ask him to explain how a hand signed LOA from him also comes with this "duplicate" ring.

FYI-B & E Collectibles was also offering a few of his Yankees rings with a similar LOA signed by Strawberry.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[ironmanfan]

Re: Darryk Strawberry World Series Ring NOT THE REAL THING!!!

Geeze, I have a hard time thinking that Straw may be less than honest

[metsbats]

Re: Darryk Strawberry World Series Ring NOT THE REAL THING!!!

Are players allowed to order more than one WS rings? Being that Rudy Giuliani got one it may not be surprising that Yankee players were able to order more than one. This would probably be dependant on the team policy too.

David

[ChrisCavalier]

Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

Did you or Darryl contact Lelands about it?

I just spoke to Darryl about an hour ago, haven't had the chance.

Hello Suave,

I think it is important to remind everyone of the rule for posting questions about items that they believe has questions. The rule is as follows:

In instances where a forum member is identifying an item in the hobby they believe to have issues, it is expected that the poster clearly state their findings in the form of an opinion and provide adequate rationale for why they believe there is an issue. When possible, it is expected that the poster questioning an item will attempt to contact the seller of the item and allow at least 24 hours for the seller to reply before posting. This will prevent postings that may be generated based on misunderstandings of an item.

It appears in this case, Mr. Strawberry is claiming he still has the ring. However, I just spoke with someone at Lelands who said the ring is supported by legal letters from Strawberry claiming it is his. While clearly both statements cannot be true, it is not appropriate to come onto the forum and state the ring is not real. As stated in the rule, findings should be stated in the form of an opinion and the seller should be contacted first to avoid postings based on misunderstandings.

I am not in any position to state whether or not the ring is Strawberry's. However, the rules need to be followed when questioning items. I have changed the title of the thread to reflect this point. Please also make sure these rules are followed in the future.

Thanks in advance.

[platinum1]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

I have come accross players that have lied about there items.
Im not saying this is what's going on here but it does happen.
I once got an item from an exgirlfriend of a player that was autographed and dated and used in a All Star game so it was easy to photomatch the item. When I later showed him the item he got really mad and told me that he still had his. I later found out he was married at the time .

[suave1477]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

Hello Suave,

I think it is important to remind everyone of the rule for posting questions about items that they believe has questions. The rule is as follows:

In instances where a forum member is identifying an item in the hobby they believe to have issues, it is expected that the poster clearly state their findings in the form of an opinion and provide adequate rationale for why they believe there is an issue. When possible, it is expected that the poster questioning an item will attempt to contact the seller of the item and allow at least 24 hours for the seller to reply before posting. This will prevent postings that may be generated based on misunderstandings of an item.

It appears in this case, Mr. Strawberry is claiming he still has the ring. However, I just spoke with someone at Lelands who said the ring is supported by legal letters from Strawberry claiming it is his. While clearly both statements cannot be true, it is not appropriate to come onto the forum and state the ring is not real. As stated in the rule, findings should be stated in the form of an opinion and the seller should be contacted first to avoid postings based on misunderstandings.

I am not in any position to state whether or not the ring is Strawberry's. However, the rules need to be followed when questioning items. I have changed the title of the thread to reflect this point. Please also make sure these rules are followed in the future.

Thanks in advance.

Hello Chris in most cases I would agree with you and rarely do I ever dispute you except for this one.

I am not questioning any item here.

It is a fact

As what was told to me. So there would be no need for me to TECHNICALLY put this in question form when I was told by the (Possible current owner of the ring) that he still has it.

I would agree with you if I was going on just hear say from an outside source but you can't get much more then the source himself.

Whether he was lying to me thats another story, but Straw knows me and really would not have a need to lie about sometine so little. When I even said that about his ring the first look that came to his face (like he was baffled) and then asked me what Auction? he seemed very surprised and reconfirmed to me he still has his ring.

As far as World Series rings just like Jerseys and Bats, there are always extras made up, duplicates, Blanks or salesman samples. Any one of those can end up on the market as someones.

As far as the letter I did not see it and I would like for Lelends to email me a pic of it I wouldbe interested in what it says.

I will shoot them an email and get there opinion on the matter.

[ironmanfan]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

As far as the letter I did not see it and I would like for Lelends to email me a pic of it I wouldbe interested in what it says.

I will shoot them an email and get there opinion on the matter.

Probably would have been best to have contacted Lelands first and give them a chance to reply before posting your discussion with Strawberry

[suave1477]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

Ironman I understand what your saying I am not disagreeing or agreeing with it.

My point is what your saying is fair but at the same time I am getting the information directly from the horses mouth.

I have sent Lelands and email and had intentions of sending them an email but in a case like this where the info is direct from the player himself. I did not see that it would be warranted to necessarily wait for a response from a 3rd party.

Maybe im wrong

[hblakewolf]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

Suave-
Strawberry's other Yankees World Series ring recently sold at Sotheby's for $55,000. Being such as huge fan of his, no doubt you're aware of this. Did you happen to ask Straw about this ring, too? Based on this, and the fact that Leland's has a signed LOA directly from Straw, why the rush to judgement and the quick post on this Forum without at least trying to obtain additional facts from Leland's?

I purchased Steve Carlton's 1983 NL Championship ring from Lelands many years ago. When I showed it to Carlton at a show, he said it was a fake, yet his manager asked me to step aside and informed me that Carlton had given it to his best friend as a gift. The paer trail leads to a pawn shop that Carlton's "Friend" sold it to.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

[suave1477]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

Suave-
Strawberry's other Yankees World Series ring recently sold at Sotheby's for $55,000. Being such as huge fan of his, no doubt you're aware of this. Did you happen to ask Straw about this ring, too? Based on this, and the fact that Leland's has a signed LOA directly from Straw, why the rush to judgement and the quick post on this Forum without at least trying to obtain additional facts from Leland's?

I purchased Steve Carlton's 1983 NL Championship ring from Lelands many years ago. When I showed it to Carlton at a show, he said it was a fake, yet his manager asked me to step aside and informed me that Carlton had given it to his best friend as a gift. The paer trail leads to a pawn shop that Carlton's "Friend" sold it to.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

Howard as far as his other World Series ring yes I was aware of it but I found out a bit too late. This was an auction item still live, so I specifically asked Strawberry about this one.
As far as it being a quick rush and judgement I recieved the information and when I did I amde people aware of my findings.
Also posted around in other websites is the questionalibilty of where the Ring in the Sotheby's auction is interesting.
I also do find it a bit strange that Strawberry would write an LOA on these rings (I am not saying it is impossible) on Yankees Stationary LOA in 2005 when Strawberrys practically whole career sold everything through his Memorabilia agent.

Which has been this way since before 2005 as said when the Strawberry Yankees LOA is dated.

[metsbats]

Re: Question About Darryl Strawberry World Series Ring

Ironman I understand what your saying I am not disagreeing or agreeing with it.

My point is what your saying is fair but at the same time I am getting the information directly from the horses mouth.

I have sent Lelands and email and had intentions of sending them an email but in a case like this where the info is direct from the player himself. I did not see that it would be warranted to necessarily wait for a response from a 3rd party.

Maybe im wrong

Suave I say this with love.

I think you had great information directly from Strawberry but went about it in violation of forum rules by calling out an item as fake (in the title of the post hence Chris's edit) and not contacting Lelands with this information first before posting to the forum. So by forum rules you were wrong. Getting the info directly from the player does not make the post not in violation of the rule.

I agree with you that you don't necessarily have to wait for a response from Lelands because many Auction houses don't respond and the auction ends and someone gets stuck with a bad item. But at least the due diligence was done by notifying the seller/auction house first and the forum rule is unbroken. And if the auction house does not respond then they are the bad guys and you are the good guy who tried to alert them about an questionable item but they chose to ignore it.

I think the GUF should work not just for the benefit of collectors but for the benefit of the sellers and auction houses who may also be putting questionable items on the auction block (whether intentionally or unintentionally). The notification process to the sellers/auction house enables this and whether they chose to embrace the information or ignore it is their choice. I notified an auction house about a questionable jersey last month then posted on the forum. I never got a response from the auction house and the item sold anyway but I know at least the post may have discouraged folks who may not have known better not to bid and waste their dollars on a questionable item.

-David