Classic eBay story!

[bigtruck260]

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I had to block him and one of his other aliases on a current auction...

As soon as I blocked one I got a bid from his other.

check both of there feedbacks. Same BS

electsmith
first_team_sports

For a while, he was outbidding me on every auction that I bid on...pretty active about 2-3 months ago. I would bet that many of us have dealt with him.

[Jags Fan Dan]

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Well, I gave it hell, but it looks like the negative feedback stays. Unless something else happens with all of this, this will be my last post regarding this matter. I did inform eBay that I plan to never sell on their site again. Not that I sold alot to begin with on there. I also informed them that their policies that over-protect buyers and leave sellers holding the bag (of crap) will prove to be a detriment to the site. I told them their site is only as good as its sellers. I know, I know. They don't care.

[Jags Fan Dan]

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Well, not drag this garbage out of the can, but I logged into my eBay today and my feedback is back to 100%! The negatives are gone. Appears our friend changed his ID to esnot9999.

[Sheffield11]

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I believe he was banned from ebay a few days ago because he is no longer a registered user. He won a few of items and always caused problems so im very happy of this. On the flip side he filed a paypal claim against me for the last thing he won about a month ago for non delivery, Likely I save all my receipts for 2 months, he must be mad that he got kicked off and now is trying to get back the sellers.

[Jags Fan Dan]

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I believe he was banned from ebay a few days ago because he is no longer a registered user. He won a few of items and always caused problems so im very happy of this. On the flip side he filed a paypal claim against me for the last thing he won about a month ago for non delivery, Likely I save all my receipts for 2 months, he must be mad that he got kicked off and now is trying to get back the sellers.

I didn't know if you got banned that your feedback would disappear. Or did they finally come to their senses and delete his negatives?

[sammy]

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If a person becomes NLR on eBay, all the negatives left by that person are removed.

One of the better aspects of eBay's new feedback policy.

[suicide_squeeze]

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I was an eBay power seller with Silver status until earlier this year.

Once eBay started kicking all sellers to the curb with their constant bulls*** changes, I dramatically reduced my selling on eBay. I might list one item every 3+ months.

Morons are in charge of eBay now, and they will continue to drive others away under their current policies.

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Ebay has let the "gen-Y" morons take over......they are clueless, as is pretty much the whole mentality of our country these days......and they are driving ebay into the ground head first. I was a Power Seller too.....now you can't leave negative feedback for a buyer???

ARE YOU KIDDING?

Ebay is lucky if I sell more than 4 items a year now. Lost my "Power Seller" status. Could care less.

Here's my quick story......sold a jersey back in November (early November), had a 10-day payment required, listed as plain as day on the auction. The jersey sold for over $2,000.00.

The reason I sold it was to raise money quickly for some debt I had due.

So, the buyer take 4 weeks to send me a PARTIAL PAYMENT, emailing me just 2 times along the way saying how he has "listed items on ebay to help pay for the jersey".

WHAT? Why is his financial situation now MY problem???

So, right before he makes the partial payment, he emails me and says he is "sending payment.....You should have it in a day or two...."

For the next 6 days, I am checking my mail as soon as I get home. Nothing. He keeps emailing me, asking me "Did you receice my payment yet??" I keep emailing him back saying "No, it didn't come today. I'm sure it will be delivered tomorrow."

Finally, I get on ebay to double check that he hadn't sent me payment via paypal. It shows no payment on the item.

Then, the next day I'm at work, and I get a phone call from a Paypal representative. She says "We're calling about the case opened up against you on ebay for a jersey?" I said "WHAT??" She says, "Yes, the customer has filed an 'Item not received, or not received as described' case against you."

Having had a prior bad experience with Paypal, I was in NO MOOD for this s#!t again. So, after I chuckled in her in ear, I calmly explained, with full-adjective-latent detail, what a piece of garbage company she worked for, and how DARE they stand up for a loser who filed a FALSE case against me, a guy with 100% positive feedback, for an item HE HADN'T EVEN PAID FOR YET!

She meakly says "But he has paid you, sir. Have you logged into your paypal account lately?"

This loser had made a "partial payment", seperate and away from the transaction we had together on ebay. He did this because when you make a PARTIAL PAYMENT, which we had NEVER discussed to this point, Paypal will not make the item as "Paid via Paypal" unless the entire payment is made. So he went into Paypal OUTSIDE of our transaction to pay me what he WANTED to pay, which of course has no connection to our transaction. The only way I would have known would have been if he had TOLD me what he had done, or if I had been lucky enough to haphazardly log into Paypal and check to see if I had received a payment.

to be cont.

[suicide_squeeze]

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cont.....

So she tells me "Since he has opened a case against you, we have placed a HOLD on the $1,500.00 he paid you".

WHAT? Then I have no access to his un-agreed upon partial payment??? So, in effect, he hasn't paid a freaking PENNY for the item he won from me??? This was beyond absurd, and I told her in no uncertain terms. I also knew what was coming next from lemmings like her, so I beat her to the punch.

I told this Paypal rep what she could do with her "case", and hung up on her.

Then, I instantly logged into ebay and sent three consecutive lambasting emails to this loser asking him why he did what he did? He hadn't paid in full, he led me to believe the payment was coming in the mail....and when I kept telling him I hadn't received it, he never even mentioned "I made it through paypal."

He sends me this limp-dick response "Well, when you didn't tell me you had received my payment, I thought you were pulling a fast one and scamming me. So I stopped the payment. The only way I could stop the payment was to start the case......That's what ebay and paypal told me."

to be cont again....

[suicide_squeeze]

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(sorry for the "cont." stuff, but I'm at work, and am fitting this inbetween).....

So then, I have to be nice against everything I'm made of JUST to get this loser to "agree to drop the case, since now there is absolutely NO payment of any kind made for the auction".......which he then proceeds to act like he's doing me a FAVOR by doing so.

You guys ever feel like you just want to PUMMEL someone?

Anyway, he closes out this "case" he wrongfully opened (it took about 5 days) and made the partial payment funds available to me......at which time I transferred into my checking account as quickly as I could to pay down the debt I was trying to get rid of in the first place.

Today? It's Feb 18, 2009. I still have yet to receive the remaining $650.00 and change this guy stills owes me for the jersey. He emailed me over a week agao, saying he was going to "send a check" this time, and I should have it in a day or so, most likely by the weekend.

That was LAST weekend......It's now Wednesday......nothing.

He has waited SO LONG to pay me for the auction, that we can't even exchange positive feedback for it any longer, as the auction item has been removed from the data base of ebay.

Hmmmmmmm........maybe I'll teach this piece of garbage what it's like to NOT follow the rules? MAYBE......I'll ship him his jersey three months after I receive his final payment.......and then I'll send the letters of authenticity that were supposed to come with it in another three months?

The point of this story is to show you JUST how whacked out ebay (& Paypal who is OWNED by ebay) really is, and how they have crapped down the throats of the sellers......YOU KNOW......the ones that make ebay what it is?

Quite frankly, I am so disgusted with ebay, I could care less if they went out of biz......although I know that will never happen. They are now as intertwined in American society as the internet. So maybe after they lose quite a bit of business, they'll fire all of the morons they have running it now, and things will get back to the good old days.

We'll see, but I have no hopes.....I'm not that foolish.

[jv225]

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Wow Suicide squeeze that is crazy. Why is that people don't have enough sense to not bid if they can't afford the item? I mean damn if it's going to take you months to pay for something maybe you should actually wait until you have the cash. Anytime I win an ebay auction I pay within minutes of it ending unless I go to sleep before the end then I pay in the morning before I leave for work.

[sammy]

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Let's see....

You have 1500.00 of his.............and...............
you still have the jersey.

Seems like it is mainly his problem now.

500.00 for aggravation damages and return the rest

[BULBUS]

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And I believe that once you cancel a Paypal claim, you can not file a second.

[sylbry]

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Since we are bashing ebay paypal I need to throw a story in.

I sold a Porsche on ebay in May of 2007. It was won by a fellow in Germany who spoke no English. My auction stated deposit within 48 hours with payment in full in 7 days. Time passed, no payment. After a month or so I tried to file a non-paying bidder complaint. Ebay rejected it stating the seller intends on completing the transaction.

In the meantime the German (named Helmut, a name I will never forget) buys another Porsche from Hyman Motors, a highly regarded classic car dealer. Well now the German wants to ship the two together. Nevermind the point that he hasn't paid me a penny. Three months pass and I get a deposit of some nominal amount.

Five months pass and he finally decides to pay me. Now Hyman is waiting for my Porsche to ship them together. I gave the German quotes for shipping to Hyman and even offered to do the arrangements. But I will not front the money. Not after how long it took for him to pay me. No response from the German.

Finally Hyman got sick of waiting, sent a truck and away the car went. This was in November

So thanks to ebay/paypal I had to wait 5 months for the money and six months to get it out of my garage.

I know it isn't game used but it is an example of how ebay/paypal will hold you hostage regardless of how bad the seller has violated your terms of agreement. Do you think I will ever use ebay to sell anything large again? Not a chance. Thank goodness for Craigslist.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Wow Suicide squeeze that is crazy. Why is that people don't have enough sense to not bid if they can't afford the item? I mean damn if it's going to take you months to pay for something maybe you should actually wait until you have the cash. Anytime I win an ebay auction I pay within minutes of it ending unless I go to sleep before the end then I pay in the morning before I leave for work.

jv225........you want to hear the FUNNIEST part of it ALL????


I received one of those (apparently automatic) "customer survey" emails from Paypal, asking me if I was satisfied with their "service".

I'd copy you all on my response, but I would be repremanded and most likely suspended from this site for the verbage I used in my description of just how happy I was with their service.

I'm telling you, people, we are NOT making progress in moving in the right direction in this country. There are some fairly STUPID people put in positions of authority, and we're all paying a steep price for it.

FLEAbay and PLAYpal are two emphatic examples of what is going wrong with great companies with the new younger "minds" take over. And please, don't get me wrong......I know there are a LOT of younger people who are totally capible of doing things right, and the proper way. It's just that they apparently aren't the ones who are "exciting" or "forward thinking" enough to grab the fancy of the exec's performing the hiring. No problem, eventually someone who's LOADED with billions will start up a company to compete with ebay, and we'll witness the collapse of the biggest company in history to have ever come from the "internet" explosion.

I welcome it with open arms.....especially after reading this post and all of the comments.

Last comment from me on this thread.....TO ANY AND ALL SELLERS......If you are representing honestly what you are selling, and you have done it right in your auction and someone starts "F'ing" with you like this piece of steamy dog poop-on-the-sidewalk that this thread is about did......do whatever you can to instigate the exact opposite of whatever the buyer wants. In layman's terms.....make the SOB's life as miserable as he has made yours (ours)...... x 10! Remember what MOM taught us gang....

"Do undo others as they have done to you......then stick the knife in!!"

Ok, maybe I modified it a bit....

[suicide_squeeze]

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And I believe that once you cancel a Paypal claim, you can not file a second.

You are 100% correct.......which is why this loser who won my jersey was so reluctant in ending his wrongful case against me. He kept saying "Once I end this, I cannot start a new one"......Which was met with my "WHY did you start it IN THE FIRST PLACE????.....You HAVEN'T EVEN PAID ME FOR THE ITEM YOU WON?????"

He's just lucky I'm an honest guy. If I were in the mood to really give him a dose of "payback"......I would consider sending him a box, with delivery confirmation, with an old t-shirt I used to wear with holes in it so my birds could sit on my shoulder and crap all over me.

He'll get his jersey. I hope he realizes just how lucky he is.

You know, screw that.....I'll make sure he knows JUST how lucky he is.

I'm going to print this entire thread, and send the copy inside the box with his jersey......explaining to him it's a MUST READ. He'll get the picture.