GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

[sox83cubs84]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Beginning to end this has to be one of the best threads of the forum. If only there were more like this, instead of: " I need help photo matching my Einar Diaz bat"

Dave

While I don't seek to demean those who make such posts, I can say, without equivocation, that one niche expert who left this site months ago told me that posts like the one you cite as an example were so numerous that it was a major reason he left the site (and hasn't returned).

Dave Miedema

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Hello thejordanman,

I just sent you an email. Could you get back to me when you have the chance?

Thanks in advance,
Chris

[thejordanman]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Kind of funny, it was recommended I take the photo down...
and it disappeared - but I didn't request it or do it.
Think there's an issue with photobucket.

I have no problem sharing the photos, and it would be great to
see the owner of the jersey get them.

I agree, it's a great thread and interesting to read. As I read through this, I started thinking about the photos I had... What's the chance that I'd have the game photos to match it?

How many times have I bought a game worn or used item, and would
have died to get a photo match? I'm never that lucky. Maybe I should
have bought the jersey!!

Do you think all the photos from his first game have any value?
Probably can't sell them without the NBA wanting their share?

[CollectGU]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Beginning to end this has to be one of the best threads of the forum. If only there were more like this, instead of: " I need help photo matching my Einar Diaz bat"

Dave

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Incredible! If this was only discovered 16 months ago. I hope the buyer of the jersey contacts you!

[thejordanman]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Well, I just looked at another one of my photos, and while it doesn't show up as dark (or obvious) as the Grey Flannel picture - you are able to see the previous number outline. It does appear to match the GF jersey.
I'd love to share the photos... but enough freebies

[bronx_burner]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

I would think that the rest of the roll of film, assuming theres some other decent shots would cement this being the same jersey as the GF jersey. I'm already convinced by that one shot. The number change under the 2 seems to match. And the thing that sticks out the most to me is the name change "leftover" at the top left corner of the O in Jordan. If I was the owner of the jersey I'd certainly look to get my hands on your photos. Either way, very cool to see some detective work supporting something as real rather than the other way around which seems to happen far too often.

[otismalibu]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

I'm guessing people are already making their own prints from that scan.

Great pic though.

[CollectGU]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

Dave,
The thought has certainly crossed my mind.
If they paid over $60,000 for the jersey, what's a $1000 for proof?
I've looked at some photos of the Grey Flannel jersey, and not sure if
these are the same. Can't imagine the Bulls would have recycled more
than one, but you never know.
I actually have better photos, some zoomed in straight on his back.
I'll have to pull those out and do a real comparison.
It's almost as if the photographer noticed the name change, and was taking close-up photos to show someone!

The more I think about it, $1,000 is low. If your photos provide a photo match the jersey's value may jump to $100,000 in my opinion

[CollectGU]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

I don't believe that there is video that conclusively shows the name change on back like this photo. This photo can potentially be used be used for a true photo match and the video likely isn't clear enough to provide that

dave

[thejordanman]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

WOW! This is huge, it appears to be a "W" underneath confirming the jersey! You should notify Grey Flannel I'm sure you could sell the originals to the owner with a notarized letter explaing whwre you got it for a pretty penny ( got to be worth at least$1,000 to the owner of the jersey). Have the mods take that photo down asap!
Best,
Dave

Dave,
The thought has certainly crossed my mind.
If they paid over $60,000 for the jersey, what's a $1000 for proof?
I've looked at some photos of the Grey Flannel jersey, and not sure if
these are the same. Can't imagine the Bulls would have recycled more
than one, but you never know.
I actually have better photos, some zoomed in straight on his back.
I'll have to pull those out and do a real comparison.
It's almost as if the photographer noticed the name change, and was taking close-up photos to show someone!

[Sonny25]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

There's video footage of Jordan's very first NBA game out there.
The entire 2nd half has been replayed numerous times on channels like NBATv, ESPN Classic, etc.

Still a cool photo, would love to see more from that game.

[CollectGU]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

WOW! This is huge, it appears to be a "W" underneath confirming the jersey! You should notify Grey Flannel I'm sure you could sell the originals to the owner with a notarized letter explaing whwre you got it for a pretty penny ( got to be worth at least$1,000 to the owner of the jersey). Have the mods take that photo down asap!
Best,
Dave

[thejordanman]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

I just stumbled upon this discussion a few days ago...
even though it's been over a year since anyone has posted a comment,
I thought I'd put something of interest on here.

Sometime during the 1990's I had a gentleman approach me at a show, offering to sell me some negatives of a few Chicago Bulls from 1984.
Don't recall if he worked for the press, freelance, or the Bulls photographer.
The negatives were never printed or published.

I had prints made, and found that over two rolls were from the Chicago Bulls first regular season game played on 10/26/1984 - at home against the Washington Bullets. This guy really focused on Jordan, as most of the photos featured him. There was a partial roll that pictured the Bulls in their 2nd regular season game played on 10/27/1984 - played in Milwaukee against the Bucks.
Anyway, there were a couple close-ups of Michael, showing the back of his jersey. It appears there was a name change.
I can't tell if it matches the one sold by Grey Flannel, as it's hard to make out any change of the numbers, but name is obvious.
I'll let you guys be the judge.
My apologies for the quality, would look better if scanned.

[aeneas01]

Re: GFC: 1984 Michael Jordan's "first" jersey

only one lot fetched more, the chamberlain jersey...

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