Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

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  • gucollector
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 20

    #16
    Re: CAUTION: Yankee jerseys with Steinbrenner & Sheppard patches

    Steiner AND/OR eBay needs to do something about this seller, yet another jersey with NO COA... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D2

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    • Dach0sen0ne
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 872

      #17
      Re: CAUTION: Yankee jerseys with Steinbrenner & Sheppard patches

      Originally posted by gucollector
      Steiner AND/OR eBay needs to do something about this seller, yet another jersey with NO COA... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D2

      Does Steiner keep a record of their numbered holos? It would be interesting to see what type of jersey that number is linked to.

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      • jtorrez
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 45

        #18
        Re: CAUTION: Yankee jerseys with Steinbrenner & Sheppard patches

        Originally posted by gucollector
        Steiner AND/OR eBay needs to do something about this seller, yet another jersey with NO COA... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3DI%26otn%3D2
        Can they really do anything though? Steiner sells blank team issued jerseys with holograms on them. If this seller is buying blanks and having them customized is there anything that Steiner can do? Does the law require that the seller remove the hologram if they have them customized? I don't know where the seller gets his jerseys from but if he is buying them direct from Steiner blank and they are the ones putting the holograms on them that right there is the problem. What can Steiner really do as long as the seller is not claiming that they are game used being that they sold the jersey blank with a hologram on it?

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        • ereyes
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 54

          #19
          Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

          Just wanted everyone to know that we have not received any 2010 Team Issued jersey from the Yankees. Someone is trying to sell an Arod team issued jersey on Ebay with patches. They most likely added the patches and MLB logo on neck. Don't be fooled into buying this jersey. Any questions you can reach me at 888-265-9298 or email me at ereyes@steinersports.com.

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          • allstarsplus
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 3707

            #20
            Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

            Originally posted by ereyes
            Just wanted everyone to know that we have not received any 2010 Team Issued jersey from the Yankees. Someone is trying to sell an Arod team issued jersey on Ebay with patches. They most likely added the patches and MLB logo on neck. Don't be fooled into buying this jersey. Any questions you can reach me at 888-265-9298 or email me at ereyes@steinersports.com.

            http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...id=p2759.l1259
            Do you think that is a legit game issued jersey from last year (or prior year) that someone added the patches to or is it a legit jersey that left the clubhouse this year and they added a Steiner hologram.

            Also, is ARod wearing knit jerseys this year?
            Regards,
            Andrew Lang
            AllstarsPlus@aol.com
            202-716-8500

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            • joelsabi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 3073

              #21
              Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

              Efrain,

              Thanks for the info. Aside from missing 2 tags, I noticed that the Sheppard patch looks off. The mic should have a white background. The fake has a grey background around the mic.

              Any chance the Steiner database will be available in the future online to verify Steiner holograms?
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              Regards,
              Joel S.
              joelsabi @ gmail.com
              Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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              • LastingsMilledge85
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1438

                #22
                Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                This jersey could only be from this year because of the colors of the MLB logo on the back so chances are the jersey is a fake all together.

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                • ereyes
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 54

                  #23
                  Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                  I'm going to say that its a jersey from a previous year due to the image of the wash tag. They changed the MLB logo and added the patches to include the different color Sheppard.

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                  • BULBUS
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1123

                    #24
                    Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                    This person has been selling Yankees "game issued" jerseys with Steiner holograms and no letters for a couple of years now. It appears that they buy blank jerseys and add the numbers and patches.
                    Chris

                    NY Giants, NY Yankees, Don Mattingly, Mattingly brand bats (any player)
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                    donnie23fan at yahoo.com

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                    • joelsabi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3073

                      #25
                      Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                      Efrain,

                      As BULBUS alluded to in his posting, this ebay seller has been doing this for a couple of years of selling uniforms with the Steiner hologram but without the Steiner COA. What is Steiner's policy when they notice a seller doing this? Besides warning us here, does Steiner even care to go after the Seller as it does damage the Steiner name if these fakes are out in the market.
                      Attached Files
                      Regards,
                      Joel S.
                      joelsabi @ gmail.com
                      Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                      • ereyes
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 54

                        #26
                        Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                        Contact Ebay and have the item(s) removed. Unfortunately they are not as quick as we would want them to be.

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                        • joelsabi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3073

                          #27
                          Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                          Originally posted by ereyes
                          Contact Ebay and have the item(s) removed. Unfortunately they are not as quick as we would want them to be.
                          So does Steiner ever go after Sellers legally for selling items claiming to come from Steiner when they do not? I think such a policy would make people think twice before trying to sell a fake Steiner item. Also the thought of being able to validate a hologram online as you can do with MLB hologram products would be more assuring to consumers too.

                          Just wanting to make the Steiner product more safe for the consumer. In the meantime, I must resort to bugging my Steiner Rep to verify a hologram.
                          Regards,
                          Joel S.
                          joelsabi @ gmail.com
                          Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                          • legaleagle92481
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2538

                            #28
                            Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                            Steiner is in a rough spot with these fakes and I must say I feel bad for them. If they take legal recourse they have to incur legal fees and court costs against small time sellers who likely do not have much in the way of assets or money so whatever judgement they could get they likely would never actually see so they would essentially cost themselves money by suing. Most people think the legal system is this magical thing its not. When you sue everyday people no matter how wrong they are and insurance companies are not involved (i.e. car crash, premises liability, etc.) it is very tough to actually recover anything.

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                            • jtorrez
                              Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 45

                              #29
                              Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                              I asked this question before and I did not get an answer. If Steiner sells team issued blanks, can they really go after someone who has them customized and sells them? I don't see how they can if they put a hologram on a blank jersey. If the person is not advertising them as game used is it really fraud considering they got the jersey directly from Steiner? techincally it is a team issued jersey just as it was advertised by Steiner when they sold it. If you look at the listing the seller is careful not to say that it was actually issued to ARod or that it came from Steiner, logistically, are they really committing fraud? It is definitely deceptive, but it is really a criminal act?

                              Maybe Steiner needs to stop putting holos on blanks, marking them somehow as a jersey that was blank or maybe cut off the wash code tags before they sell them??

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                              • joelsabi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 3073

                                #30
                                Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

                                Originally posted by legaleagle92481
                                Steiner is in a rough spot with these fakes and I must say I feel bad for them. If they take legal recourse they have to incur legal fees and court costs against small time sellers who likely do not have much in the way of assets or money so whatever judgement they could get they likely would never actually see so they would essentially cost themselves money by suing. Most people think the legal system is this magical thing its not. When you sue everyday people no matter how wrong they are and insurance companies are not involved (i.e. car crash, premises liability, etc.) it is very tough to actually recover anything.
                                It is a tough place. However I think your intellectually property is worth saving even if they never see a penny from these sellers as there is the loss of reputation of the Steiner trademark from these sales. Personally, I would like to see at least an attempt to thwarts these selllers by Steiner.
                                Regards,
                                Joel S.
                                joelsabi @ gmail.com
                                Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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