Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

[joelsabi]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Maybe Steiner should try to figure out who this guy is! Is it really that difficult?

if the jersey was originally bought from Steiner, it should be easy enough to look up the hologram number affixed to the jersey in the Sales Database to know who bought it, assuming it's a team issued jersey that was enhanced by the ebay seller.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Just wanted everyone to know that we have not received any 2010 Team Issued jersey from the Yankees. Someone is trying to sell an Arod team issued jersey on Ebay with patches. They most likely added the patches and MLB logo on neck. Don't be fooled into buying this jersey. Any questions you can reach me at 888-265-9298 or email me at ereyes@steinersports.com.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...id=p2759.l1259

Update, the seller cancelled the bid and ended the auction.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

I asked this question before and I did not get an answer. If Steiner sells team issued blanks, can they really go after someone who has them customized and sells them? I don't see how they can if they put a hologram on a blank jersey. If the person is not advertising them as game used is it really fraud considering they got the jersey directly from Steiner? techincally it is a team issued jersey just as it was advertised by Steiner when they sold it. If you look at the listing the seller is careful not to say that it was actually issued to ARod or that it came from Steiner, logistically, are they really committing fraud? It is definitely deceptive, but it is really a criminal act?

Maybe Steiner needs to stop putting holos on blanks, marking them somehow as a jersey that was blank or maybe cut off the wash code tags before they sell them??

You bring up some valid points but maybe Steiner should stop selling game issued all together as they really end up competing with themselves down the road or as you said, in the least don't sell blanks and put holo's on them.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Notice the laundry tag that it is a 48C. The C is for customization which I believe Majestic started putting those "C's" on there in 2008 or 2009. Even if the MLB logo on the back of the neck is incorrect, they can still take off the old one and add a new one.

Maybe Steiner should try to figure out who this guy is! Is it really that difficult?

[joelsabi]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Steiner is in a rough spot with these fakes and I must say I feel bad for them. If they take legal recourse they have to incur legal fees and court costs against small time sellers who likely do not have much in the way of assets or money so whatever judgement they could get they likely would never actually see so they would essentially cost themselves money by suing. Most people think the legal system is this magical thing its not. When you sue everyday people no matter how wrong they are and insurance companies are not involved (i.e. car crash, premises liability, etc.) it is very tough to actually recover anything.

It is a tough place. However I think your intellectually property is worth saving even if they never see a penny from these sellers as there is the loss of reputation of the Steiner trademark from these sales. Personally, I would like to see at least an attempt to thwarts these selllers by Steiner.

[jtorrez]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

I asked this question before and I did not get an answer. If Steiner sells team issued blanks, can they really go after someone who has them customized and sells them? I don't see how they can if they put a hologram on a blank jersey. If the person is not advertising them as game used is it really fraud considering they got the jersey directly from Steiner? techincally it is a team issued jersey just as it was advertised by Steiner when they sold it. If you look at the listing the seller is careful not to say that it was actually issued to ARod or that it came from Steiner, logistically, are they really committing fraud? It is definitely deceptive, but it is really a criminal act?

Maybe Steiner needs to stop putting holos on blanks, marking them somehow as a jersey that was blank or maybe cut off the wash code tags before they sell them??

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Steiner is in a rough spot with these fakes and I must say I feel bad for them. If they take legal recourse they have to incur legal fees and court costs against small time sellers who likely do not have much in the way of assets or money so whatever judgement they could get they likely would never actually see so they would essentially cost themselves money by suing. Most people think the legal system is this magical thing its not. When you sue everyday people no matter how wrong they are and insurance companies are not involved (i.e. car crash, premises liability, etc.) it is very tough to actually recover anything.

[joelsabi]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Contact Ebay and have the item(s) removed. Unfortunately they are not as quick as we would want them to be.

So does Steiner ever go after Sellers legally for selling items claiming to come from Steiner when they do not? I think such a policy would make people think twice before trying to sell a fake Steiner item. Also the thought of being able to validate a hologram online as you can do with MLB hologram products would be more assuring to consumers too.

Just wanting to make the Steiner product more safe for the consumer. In the meantime, I must resort to bugging my Steiner Rep to verify a hologram.

[ereyes]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Contact Ebay and have the item(s) removed. Unfortunately they are not as quick as we would want them to be.

[joelsabi]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Efrain,

As BULBUS alluded to in his posting, this ebay seller has been doing this for a couple of years of selling uniforms with the Steiner hologram but without the Steiner COA. What is Steiner's policy when they notice a seller doing this? Besides warning us here, does Steiner even care to go after the Seller as it does damage the Steiner name if these fakes are out in the market.

[BULBUS]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

This person has been selling Yankees "game issued" jerseys with Steiner holograms and no letters for a couple of years now. It appears that they buy blank jerseys and add the numbers and patches.

[ereyes]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

I'm going to say that its a jersey from a previous year due to the image of the wash tag. They changed the MLB logo and added the patches to include the different color Sheppard.

[LastingsMilledge85]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

This jersey could only be from this year because of the colors of the MLB logo on the back so chances are the jersey is a fake all together.

[joelsabi]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Efrain,

Thanks for the info. Aside from missing 2 tags, I noticed that the Sheppard patch looks off. The mic should have a white background. The fake has a grey background around the mic.

Any chance the Steiner database will be available in the future online to verify Steiner holograms?

[allstarsplus]

Re: Fraudulent Arod 2010 Team Issued Jersey on Ebay

Just wanted everyone to know that we have not received any 2010 Team Issued jersey from the Yankees. Someone is trying to sell an Arod team issued jersey on Ebay with patches. They most likely added the patches and MLB logo on neck. Don't be fooled into buying this jersey. Any questions you can reach me at 888-265-9298 or email me at ereyes@steinersports.com.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...id=p2759.l1259

Do you think that is a legit game issued jersey from last year (or prior year) that someone added the patches to or is it a legit jersey that left the clubhouse this year and they added a Steiner hologram.

Also, is ARod wearing knit jerseys this year?