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[beantown]

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Jim Kelly from October 14, 1986....

[mchmaj]

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Is this the card you're talking about. It's a 1986- wouldn't the photo be taken in 1985?

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yes u are correct it was taken in 1985 and print for TOPPS 1996
BUT something about the numbers #12 font still doesnt match the #55 from the topps '86

[Eric]

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If you have a 86 Topps Football card set, there are 2 players Smith and Haslett wearing the skinny block font and heavy mesh jerseys like my Kelly.

Is this the card you're talking about. It's a 1986- wouldn't the photo be taken in 1985?

[mchmaj]

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i did tried to look for that font in bills 35th anniv book and bills history website and dont see it anywhere
but why bruce smith worn that style showed up on topps 86 card ???
any more pix of that font style pls post it here
thanks

[mchmaj]

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Is this the same style numbering?

http://cgi.ebay.com/86-TOPPS-BRUCE-S...QQcmdZViewItem

otis, since u showed the card, seem the match of the numbers font, therefore its from 1985 season
i dont see JIM KELLY name on BILLS roster in 1985
dont TRUST nor BELIEVE all the way with typing COAs
read or write but i got eyes that can READ the jerseys !!!!!
marcus

[Eric]

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What do you think of this from 8-19-86. The sleeves look like a thinner font, but the front numbers look too thick

[otismalibu]

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Is this the same style numbering?

http://cgi.ebay.com/86-TOPPS-BRUCE-SMITH-RC-BILLS_W0QQitemZ300094388823QQihZ020QQcategoryZ28095QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

[RKGIBSON]

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Marcus,

This will be my last response to you. If you have a 86 Topps Football card set, there are 2 players Smith and Haslett wearing the skinny block font and heavy mesh jerseys like my Kelly.

I have not see the away jerseys with the skinny font. I have not seen the open mesh jerseys with the skinny font.

The head trainer at the Bill say that this jersey was a one year, 1986. I consulted with an aquaintance that has the best vintage Bill's collection to my knowledge, he says it is authentic and consistent with some of his 86 jerseys. Scott Lazzaro says its is real, see attached letter. I know you say your an expert but you are wrong here. I am happy with this jersey and really could care less what you think. I doubt that you have ever had your hand on one or more 86 Bill's jersey to form a real opinion, but you do have a picture book. I hope you read better than you write.

[mchmaj]

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for the picture jim kelly in action against the browns, its from 1987 and YES champion started supplied the uniform in 1987 and went on until late 90s
it was at Cleveland stadium, November 15 ,1987 browns won 27-21
so i only found 1986 bills were wearing FISHNET ...
YES kelly worn 2 different facemasks seemly home and away games.....
found other pcitures against the bucs nov 2, 1986 bucs won 34-28, bills worn fishnet ....
once again, if any of you guys need help with BILLS jerseys on ebay or house auction, PLS post on thsi forum and i will help RIGHT AWAY
thanks
marcus

[mchmaj]

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you still didnt support ur case with kelly jersey
i checked jimkelly.com, theres no match !
following 1986 season kelly still wear different numbers fonts, i checked getty for 1986 and theres few different pictures, if u see jan 1986 on bottom means from different year BUT if u see OCT or SEPT 1986 means they are FROM 1986 you understand ??
i know what i am talking about ....ITS OK if u got burned I DID got burned before ......
NONE of NFL even worn this thin numbers fonts at all ...
the picture i posted of kelly and bengals ,it was the BILLS against the bengals, it was FROM sept 14,1986 begnals won 36 to 33 OT kelly threw 13 for 22 for 228 yards, it was at the riverfront stadium 52,714 fans went
what more proof do u need ???
am more than happy to give u some more proofs
marcus

[RKGIBSON]

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Marcus,

The getty photo's that you have posted are not from the 86 season. I know that is what comes up on Getty when you put in 1986. If you review other years you will see they are from later years. I believe the post date of some of the photo's are later. I believe on JimKelly.com there was a rookie photo of Jim.

Roger

[RKGIBSON]

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Scott,

I saw the Faulk you have on his web site. Ron seems to have good stuff. I have not bought from him. I live in SE Missouri, so I am a Rams fan. I have the Faulk jersey were he broke Walter Peyton and Jim Browns TD records. I feel it is one of the most significate jerseys in my collection. I have several other Rams also. I think the We Trac, Prova now, is the best provenace in the business. The game detail on the web site, and certificate, and the tagging system they use on the jersey is better than anyone, period. My Faulk was used in Game 12 vs the Vikings, 11/30/2003. Photo's attached.

I have a Dillon as well. Mine was used 12/22/2002, vs the Saints. I have a great photo match on it also.

Scott, Thanks for the photos, its great HOF'er jersey.

Brooke, I have no interest in selling it. I usually wait till they are not worth what I had to pay for them.

Roger

[mchmaj]

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i did some quick research for you
first of all kelly's first season is 1986 and i have photo from 1986 of him wearing sand knit with fishnet body , and the 1987 different numbers font, assuming champion took over in 1987 and bills worn fishnet also ... champion supplied bills until 1997.

what i am guessing someone added #12 on sand knit jersey that IS from late 70s to early 80s as kelly never worn this style BUT fishnet only....

marcus

[mchmaj]

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what letter did u have with kelly jersey ???
because bills NEVER wear this numbers font ....
i have bills 35th anniversary book and theres no match at all I checked all numbers of 1 or 2s from 1986 to 1988ish beacuse bills started wearing champion in 88-89 ? and before they worn champion , the sand knit made bills jerseys in FISHNET styles.
i think u might be burned for the KELLY jersey HOWEVER your other jerseys looks good with game wears on the shoulders and all
thanks
marcus

[brookecarter]

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If you have interest in selling the Lewis for a profit please contact me at acarter@sc.rr.com. Thanks, Brooke