How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

[gamer35]

Re: How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

I have a Manny SAM bat dated 1/21/06 and I photomatched it to at least one AB on April 20, 2007.

Instead of worrying about the dating, I would be more concerned about the characteristics that the bat shows. My guess is that if anything, it was used by Tejada during the 05 season based on the knob taping. Have not seen Manny tape his knob like that in 2005. Here is a Tejada bat with similar tape: http://cgi.ebay.com/Miguel-Tejada-ga...QQcmdZViewItem

[Sheffield11]

Re: How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

The whole bat looks very shady to me, i hope you know who you bought it from because you will most likely need to return it. My best guess is that the bat was given to tejada but never used him, instead sold as issued and then gamed up by some seller. I strongly suggest you send it psa so you can get a case for a return.

[treant985]

Re: How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

The whole bat looks very shady to me, i hope you know who you bought it from because you will most likely need to return it. My best guess is that the bat was given to tejada but never used him, instead sold as issued and then gamed up by some seller. I strongly suggest you send it psa so you can get a case for a return.

I'll likely end up sending it to PSA. I guess my question is how the bat would be 'gamed up' by a seller. Would a seller shave the handle knowing that most Manny bats don't have a shaved handle? And did they go paint some baseballs blue and then hit them with it to get big blue transfers? In other words, which signs of use of the bat were actually done by a player and which were 'gamed up'? The bat has a cracked handle, so did the seller crack it or just find a cracked Manny bat lying around?

Can you guys give me additional information on Tejada and Ramirez switching bats? The tape job on the Tejada ebayer just doesn't convince me, considering other authentic Ramirez bats I've seen with all kinds of varying levels of tape. Also, why did Tejada use Ramirez's bats when they each had their own contract with Sam bats?

The seller seemed very reputable to me; of course, I don't know where the bat was before he got it. I realize that I naturally want this bat to be something authentic and thus I'm trying to find reasons why it could be, but I'm still a little unsure of the logistics of how it could've ended up NOT being used by Manny, how it got cracked, and then how it could've been gamed up.

[BMH]

Re: How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

I doubt someone doctored the bat, more then likely as with most of Manny's bats he didn't like it and gave it to someone else. Manny is one of those players most bat companies send bats to see if he'll swing them in a game. The storage room in their clubhouse is full of Manny bats that he's never used. I have several Manny bats that were sent in by other players to have copies made from.

[treant985]

Re: How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

Do you think that Manny shaved the handle or the guy he gave it to did that? Are any other Red Sox from 2004/2005 known to shave their handles?

[treant985]

Re: How long between a bat being produced and being used in a game?

The whole bat looks very shady to me, i hope you know who you bought it from because you will most likely need to return it. My best guess is that the bat was given to tejada but never used him, instead sold as issued and then gamed up by some seller. I strongly suggest you send it psa so you can get a case for a return.

As a final update for this supposedly questionable Manny SAM bat: I sent it to PSA about 10 days ago and got it back today. The bat was authenticated by PSA; they included the following:

"SAM Bat model CD1 Manny Ramirez professional model bat shows evidence of excellent use with a crack from the handle to the barrel. Several ball marks and ball stitch impressions are visible on the left and back barrel. Ball marks include blue ink transfers and white leather scuffs. Also visible on the bat are cleat marks and there is a moderate coat of pine tar on the upper handle and SAM logo. The handle has been scored and the lower handle and knob have been taped in a spiral pattern to enhance the grip."

It hasn't been updated in their database yet, but the number is H53429.