Game Issued that appear Game Used

[bottomofthe9thonline]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

You seem to now be attacking me and I don't appreciate it. I know the jersey was used, but I was being fair and posting the pic of the LOA that clearly stated GAME ISSUED and mentioned all the facts in the description.

You are now trying to bait me into something and I won't allow you to as I changed the title before any bids were made.

I put this thread up here for opinions and Goh made some great points. You have all my contact information so call me if you want to discuss this further.

Not my intent at all. Now that the title has been changed, I have no problems with the way the jersey is listed. Best of luck.

[allstarsplus]

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I just got a call from someone who saw this thread and said the COA says "Arm Band" and this jersey doesn't have one so they probably mixed up the jerseys.

I missed that, but at this point the auction has bids. Maybe Kyle can find a photomatch which would be very cool.

I will hold off hitting it with Febreeze.

[jppopma]

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Andrew, Kyle is the man for the photomatching! Here are a couple of pics that show the numbers lined up pretty close. They look like they are all lined up with the pinstripes. Best of luck! John

[gnishiyama]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

Andrew,
This will be my last post in this thread since I see you changed the title of your listing which is all I wanted to see to begin with.

However why don't you just end the auction, and try your best to photomatch this jersey using every resource out there? You might have a potential gem in your hand. If this indeed was an error on Steiner's part why should anyone besides you benefit from their error?

Goh

[allstarsplus]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

Not my intent at all. Now that the title has been changed, I have no problems with the way the jersey is listed. Best of luck.

How can you sell this as Game Used without a photomatch or Steiner COA? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330302949545

Are you so sure of your provenance that you can call it game used?

How would you like me to question you and say I have never seen use patterns like that before on a Jeter bat?

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones is my point. You don't know me, and I don't know you, but this isn't a way to get to know each other.

[Rboitano]

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That Jeter bat doesnt look good to me. I wouldnt touch a modern Jeter or Arod LVS that wasnt double dipped to begin with. By modern I mean a 2001 to the present labeling. And the pine tar looks funky.

[bottomofthe9thonline]

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I’m not sure why an educated discourse on hobby matters is turning into a tic-for-tat case of my item vs. your item - if the COA states GI on a jersey, that is how it should be sold unless proven otherwise - that is my simple point. This will be my last post, best of luck with your jersey.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

Andrew,
This will be my last post in this thread since I see you changed the title of your listing which is all I wanted to see to begin with.

However why don't you just end the auction, and try your best to photomatch this jersey using every resource out there? You might have a potential gem in your hand. If this indeed was an error on Steiner's part why should anyone besides you benefit from their error?

Goh

My, my........what a thread.

Andrew, I think this is the most enlightening suggestion from a guy who has it right.

Try to photo match it before you let it go. It's no big deal to end the auction early......in fact, it would help explain exactly WHY you ended it early......because of the issues discussed here (possible factors of game use evident).

And by the way, members......if YOU all think Steiner's COA's are God's word......then I think you all need to spend a bit more time reading these posts. They make numerous mistakes.

Hopefully this is one in your favor, Andrew.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

I’m not sure why an educated discourse on hobby matters is turning into a tic-for-tat case of my item vs. your item - if the COA states GI on a jersey, that is how it should be sold unless proven otherwise - that is my simple point. This will be my last post, best of luck with your jersey.

........And GREAT JOB with that extremely questionable bat!!!

[yanks12025]

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jppopma,
I looked at video from that game and the front dont match up.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

That Jeter bat doesnt look good to me. I wouldnt touch a modern Jeter or Arod LVS that wasnt double dipped to begin with. By modern I mean a 2001 to the present labeling. And the pine tar looks funky.

The use around the branding looks suspect too. BottomOfThe9th certainly lives in a glass house. That was just a recent auction.

Then this Negative on fake balls:


HAD TO FILE PAYPAL CLAIM. COULD NOT VERIFY BALL W/TRISTAR.RETURNED FOR REFUND.clublevelinc6ra3 ( 8460)
Nov-23-08 13:00

• Reply by bottomofthe9thonline (Nov-23-08 13:21):
  
  I GIVE HIM A FULL REFUND +S/H AND I GET NEG FEEDBACK? THIS GUY IS A SCAM & LIAR!
  • Follow-up by clublevelinc6ra3 (Nov-23-08 14:06):
    
    PAYPAL ISSUED REFUND.HE SENT VULGAR EMAIL.WE HAVE IT ON FILE.NO CERT FOR 1 BALL!

-- (#330283464220d

[bottomofthe9thonline]

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Unbelievable! I get called out as personally attacking you after raising serious questions about the way you have an item listed, doing it all in a professional and informative manner- which apparently set you on a mission to try and blemish my character as you have stooped to an amazing new low by posting the ONE negative comment I have received in 10+ years of selling on eBay when you know nothing about the history of that transaction.

[bigtime59]

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At this point, with so many "issues" surrounding the jersey, I'd end the auction early "due to errors in the listing", contact the bidders to explain why, and look for photo matches before re-listing. (Because you have sooooooo much time on your hands! ).
One question: do the holograms match up between the jersey and the letter?

Mark
bigtime39@aol.com

[allstarsplus]

Re: Game Issued that appear Game Used

Unbelievable! I get called out as personally attacking you after raising serious questions about the way you have an item listed, doing it all in a professional and informative manner- which apparently set you on a mission to try and blemish my character as you have stooped to an amazing new low by posting the ONE negative comment I have received in 10+ years of selling on eBay when you know nothing about the history of that transaction.

It's not unbelievable. You come on to this Forum and go on the attack so you opened yourself up to scrutiny.

I have 9+ years on eBay and never any negatives and in my business never one return and never one unhappy person on this Forum.

From the many emails I have received, I appreciate the support as the description is crystal clear. The LOA was photo'd and says "Game Issued" but also has a major inconsistency as it says "Arm Band". The jersey stinks. It obviously isn't the same jersey that the LOA describes.

In the end, someone is going to get a great Mariano Rivera jersey. Maybe it was only used while he sat in the bullpen. Maybe someone can photomatch it to a game that Mariano pitched in. It is light use nonetheless, just like so many Steiner Yankee jerseys I have sold before as game used because the LOA says game used and were purchased as game used. The point I made about the Ivan Rodriguez I just got from them and this jersey is honest mistakes happen.

Now for you BottomOfThe9thOnline, how can you sell that Jeter bat as game used? In my opinion, that bat is very questionable.

[allstarsplus]

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At this point, with so many "issues" surrounding the jersey, I'd end the auction early "due to errors in the listing", contact the bidders to explain why, and look for photo matches before re-listing. (Because you have sooooooo much time on your hands! ).
One question: do the holograms match up between the jersey and the letter?

Mark
bigtime39@aol.com

Yes, same holograms. I added that to the jersey description.