o/t-nba finals thread-lakers vs magic

[mr.miracle]

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Good tough win for the Lakers. This one was a nailbiter much of the night. I knew that this series would not be a blowout. What I think is interesting is that the Lakers threw the game 1 playbook out the window at times which worked so well. Way too many open looks from the 3 point shooters. You absolutely have to keep a hand in all the shooters faces and rotate off on the pics. Turkoglu, Lewis, Pietrus, Lee, Nelson, Alston etc. cannot get open 3's. This is going to come back to haunt the Lakers at some point in this series.

Now you have to go on the road and take care of business win at least 1 game. This is going to be difficult however the Lakers have already won in Utah and Denver two of the most difficult road arena's in the NBA.

Should be interesting.

[Mr.3000]

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Goodnight Orlando. Maybe next year.

[jobathenut]

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Miracle-hi there,i was wondering where you were.As i've been wondering what you have been thinking of the series so far.I would have to agree with you,as they didn't seem to play the same intense defense as the first game.But i really think they are using the, "any one but howard is going to win for them", defense.As i've said on here,the saying goes,live by the 3 and die by it.And i just think the lakers are going by that.What surprises me is the fact the lakers have'nt very many 3 so far.I just don't buy the hype around howard,superman,well tell him to get to a phone booth and change as he is more clark kent right now.And i'm sorry but is it allowed in the nba when you are dribbling to use your other arm and push off on the other player like turkoglu does.And like you said,if the lakers can win in utah and denver they can win anywhere.

Good tough win for the Lakers. This one was a nailbiter much of the night. I knew that this series would not be a blowout. What I think is interesting is that the Lakers threw the game 1 playbook out the window at times which worked so well. Way too many open looks from the 3 point shooters. You absolutely have to keep a hand in all the shooters faces and rotate off on the pics. Turkoglu, Lewis, Pietrus, Lee, Nelson, Alston etc. cannot get open 3's. This is going to come back to haunt the Lakers at some point in this series.

Now you have to go on the road and take care of business win at least 1 game. This is going to be difficult however the Lakers have already won in Utah and Denver two of the most difficult road arena's in the NBA.

Should be interesting.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Right-e-O, Mr. 3000

If Orlando can't win a game like tonight, with Kobe completely off the mark and playing like a bench player in for garbage time......it ain't happening.

It all comes down to how badly the Lakers want to send a message. They can sweep this series with a solid effort to break the spirit (and backs) of the Magic in game 3. If they win it, game 4 will resemble game 1.

But I don't want to take anything away from Lamar. He stepped up and was the guy who held it all together in the 4th quarter when Kobe was sucking eggs. The only thing Kobe did do, to keep the team battling through the end, was hit his free throws.

But this game pretty much showed everyone why the Lakers are the better team, and why this "final" is over. They get contributions from everyone...Fish with a big three-pointer, Gasol with a tough defended fade-away, Ariza stealing the ball ever other time down the court....it's Phil Jackson's dream....he will get his record championship and surpass his Celtic's nemisis.

[joelsabi]

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lakers dodged a silver bullet today. instead of tied series, its 2-0 where winner of first 2 games have won the championship 38-1. ariza made some keys steals and really messed up magics momentum. the magics were really turnover prone. lakers were better off with bynum in foul trouble but i think bynum will play better on the road. the candyman had his a-game and looking forward to winning his first championship. gasol hoping to win his too and be the pride of spain. the spanish news reporter was saying he is the most popular citizen in spain now. i like the magic adjustment to a tall, non point guard linep with reddik g.etting pt in crunch time and tegoluv handling the ball. lets see what phil will do for adjustment for game 3

[both-teams-played-hard]

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[mbenga28]

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well, what about this one?

[mr.miracle]

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well, what about this one?

But of course, who would expect anything different than Magic fans all over the message boards, internet, talk shows crying this morning about the non-call goaltend of Gasol on that last second layup attempt by Lee. My understanding from several announcers and a former NBA ref that was interviewed is that Howard obviously committed a goaltend that was missed as he was up in the cylinder blocking a direct shot/dunk attempt etc. How that was missed is beyond me but it was.

On the other hand according to the former ref, simply touching the cylinder, nets etc. is not a goaltend unless it directly interferes with the potential of a shot going in. If you look at the replay on ESPN or other places, the ball obviously had no shot of going in as it was shot very strong and high off the backboard. Despite the fact that Magic fans are claiming that Gasol was rattling the entire backboard (Not sure what video they are looking at as all the replays clearly show the backboard, rim etc is not moving at all) Gasol did not interfere with the potential of the basket to be made. I am guessing that unless it is extremely, extremely obvious, there is no way you are making a call like that to end a game.

That scenario would be my take on the whole series of calls. There have been a number of strange calls in this series as there are in all series. I have been a bit surprised that they are not allowing Bynum and Howard to bang more down low. It seems like they are calling a ton of fouls while these guys are trying to establish position that are just really ticky tack. Anyway, I expect Orlando to play for their lives tomorrow night as they lose this game and this series is a wrap.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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But of course, who would expect anything different than Magic fans all over the message boards, internet, talk shows crying this morning about the non-call goaltend of Gasol on that last second layup attempt by Lee.

Brett
Who is crying? I just posted a photo. Folks can come to their own conclusions.

[mr.miracle]

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Brett
Who is crying? I just posted a photo. Folks can come to their own conclusions.

Not implying anything from you BTPH. The entire way into work today all these schmucks are calling up the local sports talk shows crying about that final play in regulation. Magic fans are all over ESPN, SI.com etc crying about it. Bottom line as always officials blow calls both ways. I was not implying anything from your pics at all just pointing out that I was stunned (why should I be stunned, the team that loses is always crying about something) that everyone was up in arms about a non-call that I believe the officials got right.

[jobathenut]

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Thanks,this is a great picture of a rookie laying a brick on a wide open simple layup.Is this suppose to be the same as howard touching the actual ball as it's going threw the net?Because this just shows gasol touching the rim and net,i don't see any ball being touched there.But i understand as you being a obvious laker hater,why you post this picture.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Thanks,this is a great picture of a rookie laying a brick on a wide open simple layup.Is this suppose to be the same as howard touching the actual ball as it's going threw the net?Because this just shows gasol touching the rim and net,i don't see any ball being touched there.But i understand as you being a obvious laker hater,why you post this picture.

Yes, I hate the Lakers. I also hate piss-poor grammar and run-on sentences.

[jobathenut]

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How did i know you would have this kind of inmature response.Seriously,GRAMMER-that's what you got.You're actually criticizing grammer on a forum,That's funny.I'm sorry school teacher,i did'nt realize we are being graded on that on here.Keep up with the hate.

Yes, I hate the Lakers. I also hate piss-poor grammar and run-on sentences.

[jobathenut]

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Well anyways,to get away from the personal attack on me, and back on topic.I really think this game three will be most important obviously for the magic.It's a must win for them.And i think if they do win,then it could make this series interesting.As i think if the magic win,then it will go the six games i thought it would.But i think if the lakers win,they will win this in orlando.

[sportscentury]

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Well anyways,to get away from the personal attack on me, and back on topic.I really think this game three will be most important obviously for the magic.It's a must win for them.And i think if they do win,then it could make this series interesting.As i think if the magic win,then it will go the six games i thought it would.But i think if the lakers win,they will win this in orlando.

Joba, a couple of things:

First, in all fairness, you must admit that you did bait BTPH a bit.

Second, I wouldn't exactly call that a "simple layup." The pass could have been better. Lee was racing toward the bucket at an off-angle against Gasol, who has developed into an intimidating low post defender. It was basically a touch and shoot (with .06 left it was less than a catch and shoot) layup that didn't work out. See the shot again: http://www.blitzcorner.com/NBA/Court...oop-Miss-Video

Now, with all of this said, should Lee have made the shot? Yes. While it was not a simple layup, it is a shot that I believe most 2s and 3s make. He buckled. And no, I do not believe that Pau's touching of the rim had anything to do with Lee's shot not falling. Lee simply bricked it off of the glass.

I like the Magic. They are tough not to like. I am pulling *slightly* for the Lakers as I would love to not have to hear any more of Shaq's stupid comments about Kobe (I realize that this is a lame reason, but I'm not all that personally invested in either team). My interest is in seeing a long, competitive series. The Magic, as a team, though, lost that game. Lee blew it, no doubt. But the Magic made a lot of mistakes in Game 2, not just a bricked alley-oop.

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