Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

[lund6771]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

It's great to actually hear from an auction house on this forum!

for discussion sake, I think it's pretty safe to say that most auction houses think that this is an attack forum...but why isn't gameworn.net perceived that way?...I think it's because the dealers/auction houses participate in that forum, which gains them respect in the collecting community...I can't think of one hockey dealer that isn't an active participant there...

for the most part, there are minimal issues presented there with the hockey auction houses and their product...here there are tons of issues with lots of auction houses and for the most part they do nothing about it except to keep cranking out auctions, employ Lou, and all sales are final

maybe if the auction houses wanted to run an honest business, and not sell 30+ Lebron and Kobe "gamers" in the last few years, they wouldn't feel like this is an attack forum

[buc]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

I don't want to get slammed for my opinion on this, but I'm going to post it anyway:
1. I would like to personally say that I have dealt with Vintage Authentics before, had an issue with something I purchased, and they were prompt and swift in dealing with the issue. Unlike other auction houses that I have dealt with, they observed the homework that was done AFTER the auction that I PERSONALLY should have done BEFORE the auction ended, and still worked to make my situation right. Other auction houses, no names here but you can probably guess, will not return phone calls, answer e-mails, etc... until you do a chargeback. (Then they call and ask why it was not handled in a more professional manner-go figure.)
2. I'm not defending Lou Lampson, but I can say with 100% certainty that he does not authenticate every item that is consigned for auctions. How do I know? He has turned down a total of 3 of my items that I thought were 100% legit...they came from reputable sources (including certain members here) that looked the part, smelled the part, etc..., but he turned them down and told me why. I could not argue with his findings.
3. Every time I see a post on here that asks why auction houses don't use a different authenticator, I ask the same question---who do you want them to use????? Not every item is Meigray, Steiner, UDA, etc... authenticated. Not trying to pick a fight here, but please tell me who else they can use.
Ultimately, every item you bid on or buy, you should have done the research yourself and make your own conclusions. I did not do that ONCE, and it will not happen again.

[NYCrulesU]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2007/08/19/2007-08-19_there_is_only_one_jordan.html?page=0

[TriplexXxSports]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

It's great to actually hear from an auction house on this forum!

for discussion sake, I think it's pretty safe to say that most auction houses think that this is an attack forum...but why isn't gameworn.net perceived that way?...I think it's because the dealers/auction houses participate in that forum, which gains them respect in the collecting community...I can't think of one hockey dealer that isn't an active participant there...

for the most part, there are minimal issues presented there with the hockey auction houses and their product...here there are tons of issues with lots of auction houses and for the most part they do nothing about it except to keep cranking out auctions, employ Lou, and all sales are final

maybe if the auction houses wanted to run an honest business, and not sell 30+ Lebron and Kobe "gamers" in the last few years, they wouldn't feel like this is an attack forum

But if the auction houses were to actively participate in this forum it would open them to alot of issues with the questionable items, therefore minimizing their current auction inventory, and in the words of LOU, if they have to turn it away then they cannot make money.

I think having them actively participate would greatly enhance their reputation, as well as benefit us collectors that frequent here. Every one makes mistakes, but to face them and have to answer for them says alot about their company and the people they employ.

Great point Lund!

[lund6771]

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3. Every time I see a post on here that asks why auction houses don't use a different authenticator, I ask the same question---who do you want them to use????? Not every item is Meigray, Steiner, UDA, etc... authenticated. Not trying to pick a fight here, but please tell me who else they can use.
Ultimately, every item you bid on or buy, you should have done the research yourself and make your own conclusions. I did not do that ONCE, and it will not happen again.

Not trying to pick a fight, but that's bullshit...I'm in the construction business and if I don't know anything about construction, than I don't belong in it...sure I don't know everything, but what I don't know, I ask true experts

If I sell my product to my customer and screw up, is it their fault for using my services?...should I have been there with a shovel doing it myself and then still pay them 20%

[carct]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Lampson's letter is a letter of opinion. If you do not like his opinion do not bid. Caveat Emptor. Do you homework BEFORE you buy an item and do not blame others for YOUR mistakes.

[lund6771]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

wish there was an edit button

should my customer be there with a shovel, do the work, and my company make 20%

[TriplexXxSports]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Lampson's letter is a letter of opinion. If you do not like his opinion do not bid. Caveat Emptor. Do you homework BEFORE you buy an item and do not blame others for YOUR mistakes.

Run for the hills....the Colonel is back.......LMFAO!

[lund6771]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

Lampson's letter is a letter of opinion. If you do not like his opinion do not bid. Caveat Emptor. Do you homework BEFORE you buy an item and do not blame others for YOUR mistakes.

my dog can bark an opinion as well...but he doesn't claim to be an expert...Lampson and his employers do

[buc]

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Not trying to pick a fight, but that's bullshit...I'm in the construction business and if I don't know anything about construction, than I don't belong in it...sure I don't know everything, but what I don't know, I ask true experts

If I sell my product to my customer and screw up, is it their fault for using my services?...should I have been there with a shovel doing it myself and then still pay them 20%

NICE response, but you did not answer my question. Who should they use? I'm open to any suggestions, but I still believe that unless you do your own homework, you are doing yourself a disservice, regardless of whose sticker is own the item.

[buc]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

ON the item, not own the item. Darn edit button.

[TriplexXxSports]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

NICE response, but you did not answer my question. Who should they use? I'm open to any suggestions, but I still believe that unless you do your own homework, you are doing yourself a disservice, regardless of whose sticker is own the item.

My .02 is that if an auction house claims to be the best, or demands the highest reputation then they should use the best, like the ones you mentioned.

Quite possibly they have tried in the past and their items were turned away and Lou is the only one that would put a sticker on it.

The object of the game is to have inventory, and to sell that inventory at the highest price the market will give for it. Who fetches more bids and/or dollars - UDA or Lampson?

[lund6771]

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NICE response, but you did not answer my question. Who should they use? I'm open to any suggestions, but I still believe that unless you do your own homework, you are doing yourself a disservice, regardless of whose sticker is own the item.

Buc...noone...Lelands, GFC, and others do it in house

they do a way better job than Lampson...Leland's last auction was one of the best I've seen in a long time..the way it should be...Lelands employees knowledgable people and market a great product

I definitely agree with you about doing your own homework

But again...if you are an auction house that doesn't have any idea what you are selling and are using Lou as the shield, you're in for a big surprise when there is a knock on the door...and it won't be the good humer lady

[buc]

Re: Vintage Authentics Jordan jersey

My .02 is that if an auction house claims to be the best, or demands the highest reputation then they should use the best, like the ones you mentioned.

Quite possibly they have tried in the past and their items were turned away and Lou is the only one that would put a sticker on it.

The object of the game is to have inventory, and to sell that inventory at the highest price the market will give for it. Who fetches more bids and/or dollars - UDA or Lampson?

I wish UDA would authenticate, but they only do it for items they sell. They will not accept items to authenticate (unless you want an item signed, then it is only for the signature.)

[carct]

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Run for the hills....the Colonel is back.......LMFAO!

Not sure who the Colonel is..Let me guess TripleX, you bought a house you couldn't afford and it's the bank's fault for lending you the money and now I'm paying for it.