Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

[mbenga28]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

did a female write that, gosh I hope that's not who I think it is.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Long time lurker, infrequent poster here.

I agree that its crucial for there to be as much transparency as possible in our hobby, but I'm not sure this thread is a constructive way to accomplish that. The OP posted a rather inflammatory conclusion that, if true, damages Steiner's reputration. The responsible thing to have done was cut and paste the email exchange verbatim and let people draw their own conclusions.

Moreover, Steiner seems to have been very helpful to the OP in authenticating his recent eBay purchase so as a matter of common courtesy I'm not sure that throwing the company under the bus was appropriate given that context of the conversation.

Ok here is the portion of the email relevant to this post:

"We are aware of all the counterfeit Steiner items out there…that’s why we always recommend steering clear of eBay and purchasing directly from us. Sometimes, it might be worth a little extra money for the peace of mind that comes with knowing your product is 100% real!"

[mbenga28]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

I re-read the other thread and apologize to the member, if you're reading this. And if my reference to gremlin was taken in a pejorative light, I apologize for that as well - though with my correspondences with other Steiner reps in the past left that impression with me. I'd e-mail them inquiring about a product and when I inquired just a little more, they'd just ignore me and never reply back.

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Long time lurker, infrequent poster here.

I agree that its crucial for there to be as much transparency as possible in our hobby, but I'm not sure this thread is a constructive way to accomplish that. The OP posted a rather inflammatory conclusion that, if true, damages Steiner's reputration. The responsible thing to have done was cut and paste the email exchange verbatim and let people draw their own conclusions.

Moreover, Steiner seems to have been very helpful to the OP in authenticating his recent eBay purchase so as a matter of common courtesy I'm not sure that throwing the company under the bus was appropriate given that context of the conversation.

Sonic well said

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Who directly attacked Mr. Cowan? There is a lot of Steiner bashing, sure, but I havent seen any "vultures".



Chris

I am not going to go into naming names if you read the thread you can see. The point is the guy was just trying to help.

[BULBUS]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

And members here jump all over him like vultures.

Who directly attacked Mr. Cowan? There is a lot of Steiner bashing, sure, but I havent seen any "vultures".



Brooks,

If you could answer a couple of the questions asked here on the forum, maybe it will help a lot more people understand Steiners thinking. Why no data base for the holograms? Have you seen the game issued jerseys on Ebay?

Thanks,
Chris

[sonic]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Thanks for chiming in, Jigga. I, for one, want to thank LegalEagle for his post, and for starting this thread. He is a well-respected, regular poster here on GUU, and also a collector of Steiner items. He has no reason to make up a story or "alleged conversation" as you put it. The implicit suggestion that his report may be less than honest is not fair. Sharing this type of critical information is what helps us to look out for each other here on GUU, so LegalEagle is to be thanked for his contribution.

Long time lurker, infrequent poster here.

I agree that its crucial for there to be as much transparency as possible in our hobby, but I'm not sure this thread is a constructive way to accomplish that. The OP posted a rather inflammatory conclusion that, if true, damages Steiner's reputration. The responsible thing to have done was cut and paste the email exchange verbatim and let people draw their own conclusions.

Moreover, Steiner seems to have been very helpful to the OP in authenticating his recent eBay purchase so as a matter of common courtesy I'm not sure that throwing the company under the bus was appropriate given that context of the conversation.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Bulbus I'd be more then happy to answer/discuss anything you or anyone else would like, feel free to give me a call at 914-307-1004 or shoot me an e-mail at bcowan@steinersports.com. I'm always willing to help where I can. Not promising I'm the end all be all for answers or can fix everyones issues in a day but I'm willing to help where possible.

I think it would be most helpful if you answered questions in this (or a new thread) so it can be public knowledge.

I, personally, only have one question:

Why doesn't Steiner keep track of hologram numbers and make them available to search online?

It would improve confidence 100% if that simple thing were implemented.

Thanks a lot!

-Brian

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Jason, I know you do a lot of business with Steiner, but your statement is inaccurate. There is nothing wrong with this thread, and it is not even close to being "completely out of control." LegalEagle brought a legitimate point to the table and it is being discussed reasonably by GUU members.

Sportscentury have I done business with Steiner YES. Is my opinion bias NO.
I am a very objective person and believe in standing for what is right.

Attacking someone for trying to help is wrong period ended.

[BCowan40]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Bulbus I'd be more then happy to answer/discuss anything you or anyone else would like, feel free to give me a call at 914-307-1004 or shoot me an e-mail at bcowan@steinersports.com. I'm always willing to help where I can. Not promising I'm the end all be all for answers or can fix everyones issues in a day but I'm willing to help where possible.

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

I wouldnt say its out of control. We have a Steiner rep responding. More questions should be directed at him and maybe we can get some answers.

Bulbus you have a Steiner rep who took the time out of his day to just lend a halping hand and try to make sense of what was possibly may have been a misunderstanding that was it.

And members here jump all over him like vultures.

It was completely uncalled for and now you want him to answer questions after you attacked him???

I mean come on are you serious?

He was just trying to help

[sportscentury]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Another thread spun completely out of control for no reason

Jason, I know you do a lot of business with Steiner, but your statement is inaccurate. There is nothing wrong with this thread, and it is not even close to being "completely out of control." LegalEagle brought a legitimate point to the table and it is being discussed reasonably by GUU members.

[BULBUS]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Another thread spun completely out of control for no reason

I wouldnt say its out of control. We have a Steiner rep responding. More questions should be directed at him and maybe we can get some answers.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Another thread spun completely out of control for no reason

I'm not quite sure what's "out of control" about it. Just pointing out that Steiner is doing nothing to help their customers out in the long run. They're short-sighted and aren't protecting their customer by building a reliable brand.

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner admits there are many "fake" Steiner products

Another thread spun completely out of control for no reason