JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

[34swtns]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

$220 for even scrub player is pretty good deal. When you know it's a legit gamer sourced from the team with wear team letter ect.

Not true. There are boatloads of game used NFL jerseys that hit the market that aren't even worth $100. The players just don't pull decent prices. They just don't.
And you can't use the comparison that any gamer should be worth a couple hundred bucks because retail authentics cost even more. It's apples to oranges, two different products, two different target buyers.
Let me preface this by saying I've had dealings with and made satisfactory purchases from JO Sports. While I've never gotten what I would consider to be "a bargain" from them I will say that they were at least willing to negotiate with me in order to make an item's price more realistic.
I collect Bears gamers and Buccaneers gamers. There are tons of Bucs gamers that become available every year from players past and present that barely break the $200 mark. That's accepted among those of us who are knowledgeable regarding Bucs equipment. You pay more than a couple bills for a Bucs jersey and you'd better really like it because you may not get your money back out of it. At the same time, we see Bears jerseys belonging to B-listers and guys who are no longer with the team for sale for twice what a similar Bucs jersey would sell for. Other than the fact that it's from a more desirable team, a typical example of these Bears jerseys are still realistically worth around $200-250....tops. The resale market proves it every time.
I've bought and sold more examples of these than I could possibly count.
Unless it's a star player, these lesser players' jerseys just don't maintain their value.......at all. If you're able to control the market to the point where you can get $400-500 for one-year players and traded/cut players then you, sir, have hit the lottery. Regardless of all the team paperwork, COA's, wearmarks, photomatching and whatever bells and whistles you can attach to a jersey, in the real world some of these are not now nor will they ever be worth more than $200. Period.
If you're able to command more than that amount for them, God bless you, you're clearly an example of the American dream at it's finest.
There will be cheerleaders and others who will attempt to present an argument to the contrary, but those of us who are truly knowledgeable in the buying and re-selling of these items with the intention of not losing money know that there is none.
While I commend JO Sports for organizing a successful and badly-needed venue in which to market an item which has not previously been marketed on such a scale, I would like to see some issues in regards to the pricing of these less desirable jerseys. We all watch them sit in their inventory for months for a reason. Price them to move and they'll move, I promise you that, and I certainly hope that with their new plan to work with the members of this forum they will be working towards that end.

[hrvatwill]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Don't know if anybody noticed, but somebody came in yesterday and bought every single remaining Steelers item, which I think consisted of three jerseys and three helmets........

[indyred]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I'm aware that they have some... my issue is that they have Brandon Lloyd and Adam Archuletta jerseys for $240. Those guys are bums and they've got their jerseys for $240. That's just a joke.

As I said earlier, I don't disagree with their prices for "star" players because when you've got items from a star, you can charge whatever you want because the demand is there. But when you're trying to sell jerseys of hacks for several hundred dollars, that's where you lose me. And, again, they must have a good reason to do it, and it seems to be working out well for them. I'm just saying that's why I haven't (and probably won't unless things change) bought anything from them. Not because of quality or authenticity or customer service or anything like that... simply price.

They have Jansen, Thomas, Griffin, Marcus Washington all under $400. Those guys were all starters and decent players. $220 for even scrub player is pretty good deal. When you know it's a legit gamer sourced from the team with wear team letter ect.

[bigben7]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Skinsfan,

I would glady purchase any bums on the Steelers for $240. That seems like a great price for a game used jersey.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

JO Sports has a bunch of Redskins at $400 and under. Some in low mid $200's.
http://www.josportsco.com/list_produ...7000000&Page=3

I'm aware that they have some... my issue is that they have Brandon Lloyd and Adam Archuletta jerseys for $240. Those guys are bums and they've got their jerseys for $240. That's just a joke.

As I said earlier, I don't disagree with their prices for "star" players because when you've got items from a star, you can charge whatever you want because the demand is there. But when you're trying to sell jerseys of hacks for several hundred dollars, that's where you lose me. And, again, they must have a good reason to do it, and it seems to be working out well for them. I'm just saying that's why I haven't (and probably won't unless things change) bought anything from them. Not because of quality or authenticity or customer service or anything like that... simply price.

[indyred]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I agree that $250 for a jersey isn't a lot of money. My point earlier was that (for Redskins ONLY), there is no option to get a starter (or even somebody who has played sparingly in the past few years) for under $400. That, to me, is crazy.

JO Sports has a bunch of Redskins at $400 and under. Some in low mid $200's.

http://www.josportsco.com/list_products.asp?CatID=0&TeamID=6000000&SubID=7000000&Page=3

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I agree that $250 for a jersey isn't a lot of money. My point earlier was that (for Redskins ONLY), there is no option to get a starter (or even somebody who has played sparingly in the past few years) for under $400. That, to me, is crazy.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

- $250 for an AUTHENTIC GAME USED NFL jersey is NOT a lot of money, considering if you just buy a generic authentic jersey on NFL.com your gonna pay $400....

Exactly. And the point that is lost on alot of people is that this stuff is luxury items not necessary items as is anything else sports related.

[zooat2]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I've purchased 2 jerseys from JO and have been very pleased. The first was a Ciatrick Fason Vikings jersey for $250. Did I overpay for that? Sure. But he's the last 1,000 yard rusher for the Gators, and the peace of mind in dealing with JO is worth something. The other one I bought was a 2007 Alex Brown Bears jersey. It was listed at $1000 for a long time, but when they dropped it to $750 I pulled the trigger. Too high? Maybe. But now I have a jersey of UF's all time sack leader. Both jerseys show awesome use and the Brown is photomatched.

It's all about what you're willing to pay and JO's cash flow. If they need a cash infusion to close deals with new teams, you might see some markdowns to get those jerseys selling.

- $250 for an AUTHENTIC GAME USED NFL jersey is NOT a lot of money, considering if you just buy a generic authentic jersey on NFL.com your gonna pay $400....

[gatorcollector]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I've purchased 2 jerseys from JO and have been very pleased. The first was a Ciatrick Fason Vikings jersey for $250. Did I overpay for that? Sure. But he's the last 1,000 yard rusher for the Gators, and the peace of mind in dealing with JO is worth something. The other one I bought was a 2007 Alex Brown Bears jersey. It was listed at $1000 for a long time, but when they dropped it to $750 I pulled the trigger. Too high? Maybe. But now I have a jersey of UF's all time sack leader. Both jerseys show awesome use and the Brown is photomatched.

It's all about what you're willing to pay and JO's cash flow. If they need a cash infusion to close deals with new teams, you might see some markdowns to get those jerseys selling.

[reed1216]

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I've purchased from JO Sports and couldn't be happier with my items. In fact, of my 7 Bears jeresys, 4 are authenticated and came from JO Sports, 2 came from Game Exclusives (2006 Briggs and a 2006 Muhammad) and the other is a circa 1986 Neal Anderson that's beaten to high hell. While the Muhammad had relatively few marks on it, it was used in a game where he caught just one pass, against the Cardinals in the classic MNF game. The Briggs is easily photomatched to the 2006 game versus the Giants.

Each of the 4 jerseys purchased from JO Sports were easily photomatched (2009 J. Cutler, 2007 T. Harris, 2007 C. Benson and a 2007 B. Berrian). I purchased the Cutler and the Harris directly from them at their asking prices and while the prices were on the high side, even with my starting salary as a therapist/social worker (while finishing my last semester of graduate school), they were worth every penny to me.

I did get the Benson from GUU Auctions and the Berrian from an EBay seller for significantly less than what JO Sports was asking. When I bought the Cutler for $2500, I was concerned that I overpaid. However, within a week of buying it, the white one they had for sale was purchased and one the was sold through NFL auctions went for exactly $2500, the same prices JO Sports was asking for theirs.

While these prices do seem high, the quality pieces are selling. I am soooo glad I pulled the trigger on my Cutler jersey now. He's bound to improve upon last year's performance and I believe he has the potential to be among the best QBs in the NFL, provided he gets a receiver, or two that can run a route and catch the ball.

As far as I'm concerned, people are going to pay what they're going to pay. If you want quality pieces that are iron clad in their authenticity, JO Sports is a great source. Their customer service is amazing and I'd rank them right there with MeiGray as the best dealers in the hobby.

[JasonBanz]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Thank you for all of your thoughts. We are in the process to communicate with Chris and GUU to offer some great specials to everyone who participates on GUU/Forum. One thing I want make sure happens is we by no means want to break any forum rules or put Chris in a situation where he has to answer questions regarding this exclusive GUU/Forum members offer. Secondly, I cannot discuss the teams we are in negotiations with for 2010.
Last, I want to comment on the post regarding players sending us game issued items. To my knowledge this is 100% false. If that member would like to contact me regarding this statement please do.
Please be patient regarding the exclusive offer as Chris and I will be in discussions working out the details.

Thank you,
Jarrod Oldridge

Jarrod,
Thank you! That would be awesome to get exclusive offers. Looking forward to hearing more in the future!

[josports]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Thank you for all of your thoughts. We are in the process to communicate with Chris and GUU to offer some great specials to everyone who participates on GUU/Forum. One thing I want make sure happens is we by no means want to break any forum rules or put Chris in a situation where he has to answer questions regarding this exclusive GUU/Forum members offer. Secondly, I cannot discuss the teams we are in negotiations with for 2010.
Last, I want to comment on the post regarding players sending us game issued items. To my knowledge this is 100% false. If that member would like to contact me regarding this statement please do.
Please be patient regarding the exclusive offer as Chris and I will be in discussions working out the details.

Thank you,
Jarrod Oldridge

[sportscentury]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

You'd think, Reid. There are some oddballs out there, not to mention all the newbies who still put too much faith in LOAs. I once sold something that was a slam-dunk photomatch. We're talking legit matches from different angles. I posted multiple angles of both the item in my possession and on the field. I had a guy email me and ask if it included a COA. (A fair question since team letters never hurt.) Mine did not. It was already about 10 years old. The guy emailed back and said he wasn't interested in it without a COA. It gave me a good laugh.

I am in the process of buying a jersey that I just photomatched. After I photomatched it, the seller wrote to say that he forgot to mention that the jersey has a team letter. I replied, "Great, please toss it in with the jersey." I'll keep the letter for re-sale purposes, but it means nothing to me personally after having photomatched the shirt.

[skipcarayislegend]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

All other factors equal, I'd take a photomatched jersey on eBay 8 days a week over a non-photomatched jersey from even the most reputable dealer with the best of sources. This is a no-brainer.

You'd think, Reid. There are some oddballs out there, not to mention all the newbies who still put too much faith in LOAs. I once sold something that was a slam-dunk photomatch. We're talking legit matches from different angles. I posted multiple angles of both the item in my possession and on the field. I had a guy email me and ask if it included a COA. (A fair question since team letters never hurt.) Mine did not. It was already about 10 years old. The guy emailed back and said he wasn't interested in it without a COA. It gave me a good laugh.