JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

[dcgreg25]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I may be in the minority but I can understand the model they appear to be working from. Given the appetite for game used items, these exclusive contracts with these teams are not cheap. JO brings a full inventory to their website and sell several items for premium prices to collectors willing to pay a premium for certain authenticity. The buyers also get a jersey that is otherwise very hard to locate paying a premium for certainty of getting the item and getting it directly from the team.

Once they have marketed these jerseys for a period of time, they release some into the secondary market (GUU Auctions, Grey Flannel, ebay, etc) to thin the inventory while likely keeping the prices higher on the more desirable inventory.

I personally own two jerseys that were authenticated through JO Sports. I purchased both through auction houses. However, I would purchase items directly from them to secure a player or jersey that was central to my collection and I could not find it elsewhere. They seem to target:

1. less hard-core collectors with significant disposable income who want something authentic and do not want to dig around trying to find it.

2. Seasoned collectors looking for "grail" items.

Yes these items can be often be found for less from other sources but they often require some searching/patience and knowledge. This time and energy has a value. At a certain price, it is worth it for a collector to pay to acquire an item. That number is different for all of us.

This model prices several collectors out of the market on their initial offerings but if those buyers did not buy, JO would not be viable keeping some great jerseys out of the hobby and some of their lesser jerseys out of the auctions. I am somewhat thankful for those collectors because they are the ones who gather the team and league attention bringing more quality authentic product into the marketplace. These jerseys are often resold at a loss but remain in the hobby.

I buy through NFL Auctions, NBA Auctions as well. Again premium prices but good jerseys that often can not be found elsewhere. Just my two cents.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I just check and JO's Ebay name is: j.o.sportsco

Thanks.

It looks like they've got a ton of Raiders jerseys on there and many of those seem to be reasonable. Same for Vikings jerseys. Many of those seem reasonable too.

I do agree w/the earlier poster who mentioned that they should have real auctions to set the prices. But, if I were them, I wouldn't do that either. You could get burned really badly by that and I wouldn't expect that they'd want to take that risk. I don't remember which one, but I do know that they just listed a bunch of items in a "major" online auction (maybe Gray Flannel, Legendary, Iconic, or something -- Don't remember which one right now.)

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Really?

Yeah, I think that they focus on people who don't know about auction sites, have team contacts, etc. I don't think that many of the people on this board would be interested in most of their items.

I know that the star jerseys will move at whatever prices they make them among people in the hobby. No matter who the customer is (educated in the hobby or not), they will be able to sell an Adrian Peterson jersey for whatever they want. What I'm talking about is the jerseys from several years ago of people who weren't starters and aren't even in the NFL anymore. I don't see too many members of this board paying $500 for those jerseys. I'm guessing that they'd use other means to get one of these players if they really wanted one.

I'm only talking about Redskins stuff that JO has, because that's really all I'm interested in that JO has. I understand that somebody said earlier that they have many jerseys in the $150 range... and they may. But there isn't even ONE under $200 for the Redskins.

I'm really not trying to argue or anything like that. I'm just giving my opinion. I think that the high end are targeted to everybody, but the price drop isn't what I think it should be for the common player jerseys -- which is what I'm interested in and collect (as you could tell by who I collect in my signature. haha).

[Vikingshelmetguy]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Yeah, they have a Chris Cooley 'Skins helmet from 2007 (no significance) for $3k.... don't know why anybody would spend that. Buuut, like you said, I think they target the people who just want something and price is no object. Not people who are in the hobby.

What is JO sports eBay name?

I just check and JO's Ebay name is: j.o.sportsco

[sportscentury]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Yeah, they have a Chris Cooley 'Skins helmet from 2007 (no significance) for $3k.... don't know why anybody would spend that. Buuut, like you said, I think they target the people who just want something and price is no object. Not people who are in the hobby.

What is JO sports eBay name?

Really?

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I think that the biggest reason for them being able to charge the prices that they do is that they have exclusive partnerships with several teams. So, if you want a jersey from one of those teams (Redskins for me), then you need to buy it from them or the occasional BCA jersey on NFL Auctions.

[Lokee]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I have never purchased anything from JO Sports but I just checked their site and they have plenty of jersey's starting at 150.00 which isn't too bad. Of course they are going to charge more for the "superstar players" and so they should.

If they can get what they get (price wise) good for them. Personally it is always nice to know what you are getting is THE REAL DEAL as apposed to "thinking" you have the real deal.

[sportscentury]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Reason #1: lots of dead inventory sitting....and sitting......for months on end.
If something has been for sale for 6 months+ at $1000 with no takers, what would you do? Bet I can guess.

Reason #2: see reason #1.

It depends on how you read the market and what predictions you make about its future. I've had items that I could not sell for long periods of time that would now easily sell for triple of what I was originally asking. I wish I'd held onto these items rather than lowering their prices and moving them. I would imagine Jarrod spends an incredible amount of time watching and thinking about the football game used market and has information that few others have. Maybe Jarrod thinks that the market for his items in stock will change to his favor. This expectation could be based on a number of factors, not least of which is knowing that some collectors get tired of waiting for prices to come down and end up pulling the trigger at the seller's original asking price. Happens all the time.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I have been really interested in buying a Vikings helmet from JO Sports, but the cost has been a little too much for me to afford ($1000 to $2000). I have a modest salary and I honestly can’t afford to pay that much for a helmet at this time. But from what I can see, there are clearly some buyers who are able to afford the prices that JO Sports asks for, and I am guessing that it is these kinds of buyers that JO targets. I have also seen too that JO has been offering lower-priced game worn inventory (mostly jerseys) on Ebay at very reasonable and fair prices.

Yeah, they have a Chris Cooley 'Skins helmet from 2007 (no significance) for $3k.... don't know why anybody would spend that. Buuut, like you said, I think they target the people who just want something and price is no object. Not people who are in the hobby.

What is JO sports eBay name?

[Vikingshelmetguy]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I have been really interested in buying a Vikings helmet from JO Sports, but the cost has been a little too much for me to afford ($1000 to $2000). I have a modest salary and I honestly can’t afford to pay that much for a helmet at this time. But from what I can see, there are clearly some buyers who are able to afford the prices that JO Sports asks for, and I am guessing that it is these kinds of buyers that JO targets. I have also seen too that JO has been offering lower-priced game worn inventory (mostly jerseys) on Ebay at very reasonable and fair prices.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

For example, they've got 80+ Redskins GU Jerseys.... I quickly looked through and I think that only 3 or 4 are under $400. I'm talking about people that haven't been on the team (possibly the NFL) for 3 years or more and they're asking $500.

I'm honestly not bashing them, I'm just saying that if that were me, I'd be doing things a bit differently. They must have reasons for doing it that way and they seem to be pretty successful, so they don't have a real incentive to change.

[skinsfan0521]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I do not think JO's prices are that bad on the majority of their jerseys. I have bought from them alot. They sell high quality stuff that arrives safely packaged with a nice folder that often includes photos of the player wearing the item. They have top notch customer service as well. I have bought from NFL auctions as well and JO runs rings around them in every area and NFL auctions stuff on the whole sells for higher prices. They also seem to really move their stuff particularly of the stars. They have the Jets but if you notice Sanchez, Revis and Mangold are out of stock. They have the Vikings they are out of Favre. They have the Chargers and are out of Tomlinson, Gates and down to one Rivers road jersey. They have Bears stuff but no Cutler or Urlacher left. Why should they lower their prices when they are selling their stuff? They are a business their ultimate goal like any others is too make as much money as possible.

I agree that they have no reason to lower prices because they move star items through relatively quickly. But, they have a lot of 2nd (or 3rd) tier players listed at like $800. Instead of lowering prices, having sales, etc, they just let them sit there. Again, if I were them, I probably wouldn't lower them either because of their success selling for the high prices. I'm just saying that as a collector (not a high-end collector), it would be nice if they had more reasonable prices.

Just my opinion...

[34swtns]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

Why should they lower their prices when they are selling their stuff? They are a business their ultimate goal like any others is too make as much money as possible.

Reason #1: lots of dead inventory sitting....and sitting......for months on end.
If something has been for sale for 6 months+ at $1000 with no takers, what would you do? Bet I can guess.

Reason #2: see reason #1.

[chakes89]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

It would be cool if they added the Bengals.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: JO Sports adding teams in 2010?

I do not think JO's prices are that bad on the majority of their jerseys. I have bought from them alot. They sell high quality stuff that arrives safely packaged with a nice folder that often includes photos of the player wearing the item. They have top notch customer service as well. I have bought from NFL auctions as well and JO runs rings around them in every area and NFL auctions stuff on the whole sells for higher prices. They also seem to really move their stuff particularly of the stars. They have the Jets but if you notice Sanchez, Revis and Mangold are out of stock. They have the Vikings they are out of Favre. They have the Chargers and are out of Tomlinson, Gates and down to one Rivers road jersey. They have Bears stuff but no Cutler or Urlacher left. Why should they lower their prices when they are selling their stuff? They are a business their ultimate goal like any others is too make as much money as possible.